Volvo vs Power Pole

[Rusty Heap]

Power Pole winner 1
Volvo loser 0
Fire hydrant 0

Driver 000




dare to guess high speed was involved?



1 killed after car hits utility pole in Kirkland | KOMO

[sammyg2]

But volvos are safe cars.

[LakeCleElum]

Good tires, certainly not great tires:

[Nickshu]

Has to be a lot of speed there? 60+??

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

But volvos are safe cars.

And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

[Nickshu]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

Just like having 4WD does not overcome the coefficient of friction just because more wheels are driving.

Or as my Dad always told me as a teen driver...it's 4 wheel drive, not 4 wheel stop

[aap1966]

All Wheel Drive = Hit the tree at higher speed
4 Wheel Drive= Get Stuck further from help.

But, in all seriousness, what sort of speed is required to produce that result? Any LEO / EMDs prepared to chip in?

[MRM]

It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by gh85carrera

and the laws of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. Ok, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

356?

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by MRM

It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

Yup.

[Nickshu]

Originally Posted by tcar

But, it IS '4 wheel stop' though. All 4 wheels have brakes.

But 4WD also only has 4 wheel brakes.

LOL let me know how that works out for ya with all 4 wheels on ice.

It's meant to be a figure of speech if you couldn't tell.

[David]

Compared to that car, my 997 had a little scratch after hitting a light pole on the driver's door at a good clip, so I'm thinking well over 100 mph for the Volvo crash

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

You mean a car cannot be simultaneously wrapped around a pole and not wrapped around a pole?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Nickshu

Or as my Dad always told me as a teen driver...it's 4 wheel drive, not 4 wheel stop

Yes, and that's a trap I have let myself fall into. I get lured into out driving my stopping power by 4 wd "go" power.

[Holger]

By the look of the rear lights it seems to have been a non stock car.

[widgeon13]

Pretty sad result I would imagine.

[Esel Mann]

Originally Posted by David

Compared to that car, my 997 had a little scratch after hitting a light pole on the driver's door at a good clip, so I'm thinking well over 100 mph for the Volvo crash

I'm going contrarian and putting in 55 for the win as everyone has gone over.

The car is still around the pole. 100 should have sliced it into two pieces.

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

356?

Yup, whether it's a pre-A, A, B or C

[LakeCleElum]

Originally Posted by MRM

It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

Good point MRM. However, with anti-lock brakes these days, we see less skid marks in the Accident reconstruction business. Still see Yaw marks and these can be used to calculate speed. Back in the day, I had all these formulas programed in "Basic" on the cassette tape drive of my computer: a TI 99A.

Figuring speed from "Crush" is a whole new issue. No longer an exact science like tire marks were.

[dafischer]

Those are masks overlaying the stock tail lights.
Under the lenses on an S60 looks nothing like that.