Learning How to Wok

[Don Ro]

All these recent threads on physicality and food has me more motivated to lose 30 lbs. I need to get serious...diabetes, gout, heart issues, fat & ugly, etc.
30 years ago I used to stir fry in my cast iron skillet...but now I want a wok.
So, talk to me about a good wok. 'Been on Amazon looking at the carbon steel ones.
I bought a beautiful used one at a thrift shop recently but I was on a moto...came back the next day and they hadn't marked it SOLD so they sold it again.
BTW, I have a gas range...if that matters.
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Looked at these cook books on Amazon, too:

Stir-Frying - Grace Young
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Thug Kitchen
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Spare no details on anything related to woking, boys.
What to cook, oils, seasonings, technique, body language, background music, naked or fully-clothed, what to avoid, etc.
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[asphaltgambler]

What I know. ................stay away from 'Americanized' versions. IE: Non- stick coatings, very smooth surfaces, very thin construction. The ones I see the pros using appear to be hand hammered where there are ridges all along inside. This is to pull up and hold the ingredients away from direct heat at the bottom, still keeping them warm.

Very little oil is used, must have a high flash point like peanut oil. Open flame burner is the only way to go because the heat / temperature needs to rapidly increase or decrease as needed. Sounds like you have that part licked.

[Gogar]

See if your model of range has a wok burner replacement you can buy for one of the regular burner grills. You'll have more fun if you can get the wok really hot. Make sure to use an oil with a high smoke point.

Those are my big ones. Have fun!

[Don Ro]

Found this for starters....
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Stir-Fry 101: A Guide to Quick & Healthy Meals – Cook Smarts

[javadog]

I cook Asian food almost daily, and grew up in Asia, so a few tips:

Your stove burner will likely only put out maybe 10-15% of what wok stove will, so that's your first hurdle. Using a heavy wok (or other pan) that you can pre-heat to super hot before starting and that will retain heat when food is added will help. Some burners don't have gas jets in the center, so the center of the pan will be cooler. You'll have to experiment a little.

Prep everything before you start. Everything. If it takes more than 2 seconds to add any ingredient to the pan, you are not ready.

Cook in small quantities.

Use quality ingredients sourced from an Asian market. Buy nothing "oriental" from a regular grocery store. Consider the sodium levels on soy sauces, fish sauces, etc. Taste them all, you'll find a favorite. Some are better for cooking, others better as condiments.

Make all you own stocks. Do not use a pre-packaged stock. Buy good rice. Thai jasmine rices work for me.

Don't over eat. You can make all the healthy food you want but if you eat a ton of it, you'll gain weight.

Use cookbooks that are used in Asian cooking schools. You'll probably have to buy them online. The crap you get from your normal bookstore is, well, crap. Start with a crap recipe, you won't like it. Stick to the recipe quantities, measure carefully.

If you get the pan super-hot, then throw in the aromatics first, like most recipes suggest, you'll not always like the outcome. Garlic, in particular, burns quickly. Learn to add it when you can control how long it's cooked, before the addition of another ingredient cools the pan.

Cook the rice an hour before the rest of the meal, so it is ready to eat when you finish the stir frying. You can cook rice in 10 minutes; it's better if it sits a while. Don't bother with a rice cooker.

JR

[craigster59]

The Grace Young book "Breath Of A Wok" is another great book from her. Try and buy a carbon steel wok. If you are on FB she has a group Wok Wednesdays that has lots of info. A good place for ordering stuff is here: https://www.wokshop.com/newstore/

In Breath Of A Wok and Stir Frying To The Sky's Edge she explains all the utensils and sauces that you should keep on hand.

And an FYI on the group buy that Shaun did for the Cen Bros woks. They are no longer in business and there is one on Ebay for $350, they've become unobtanium.

[tabs]

You need HEAT to flash sear the goodies, and you need heat retention (so you do not lose heat when putting in the goodies) that an 8K btu gas stove burner can not deliver. You need around 22K to get er done. You can order on line a Butane Burner for patio use that delivers around 75K BTU for around $80.

Chinese Restaurants are delivering around 100K burners...that is hot and fast.

U need the hi heat so it does not turn out soggy and mushy...but nice and crispy and crunchy.

Peanut oil yup. Hi flash point.

And you missed out on the Great Pelican Cen Ro hand hammered Wok direct from Shanghai adventure. Sadly those Woks are no more as the brothers who made them retired from the business. Those Woks are the ones Grace Young uses and has pictured in her book. This extravaganza was brought to the Pelican by Shaun and I.

I would also try and check out a Chinese or Asian market in your neck of the woods...I have often spent hours wandering about wondering what the fk do ya make with this here sauce?

One thing about this town is that there is no dearth of exotic foods to be had...there are Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Eastern European, Polish, Indian markets among others. A virtual culinary cornucopia.

[Fast Freddy 944]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

All these recent threads on physicality and food has me more motivated to lose 30 lbs. I need to get serious...diabetes, gout, heart issues, fat & ugly, etc.
30 years ago I used to stir fry in my cast iron skillet...but now I want a wok.
So, talk to me about a good wok. 'Been on Amazon looking at the carbon steel ones.
I bought a beautiful used one at a thrift shop recently but I was on a moto...came back the next day and they hadn't marked it SOLD so they sold it again.
BTW, I have a gas range...if that matters.
.
Looked at these cook books on Amazon, too:

Stir-Frying - Grace Young
.
Thug Kitchen
.
Spare no details on anything related to woking, boys.
What to cook, oils, seasonings, technique, body language, background music, naked or fully-clothed, what to avoid, etc.
.

Use peanut oil to fry in your wok. Pork, chicken, skirt steak, re-fried rice, veggies, and lots o' teriyaki sauce. La choi soy sauce is the best for taste. Have fun!

[Don Ro]

Cen Bros woks.
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Been reading online...it's crazy. Some folks are willing to travel to Shanghai in search of these.
You're right...one on eBay now for $375.

[rusnak]

This thread is making me want to eat some Chow Mein

[Gogar]

If no one has mentioned it yet I just wanted to skip to the bottom and let you know that you need lots of heat

[Gogar]

Oh yeah and get the wok really hot too

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Oh yeah and get the wok really hot too

Gogar is a wok star!

...any tips on how to woll ?

[tabs]

RARE Mr Cen Handhammered Carbon Steel Wok | eBay


And I bought 4 of them...

[masraum]

As I think may have been mentioned before (just maybe), if you don't have the right kind of way to apply heat (and enough heat) then a wok is probably a waste of time. I tihnk a wok will pretty much require a gas burner that can put out prodigious amount of flame.


If you want a bigger version of the image to read the text, it's here.

[tabs]

This ^^^^ is why I buy special Propane Wok burner.

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by tabs

RARE Mr Cen Handhammered Carbon Steel Wok | eBay


And I bought 4 of them...

That same wok that I saw on eBay did NOT sell for $375 so it's now relisted for $500.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

That same wok that I saw on eBay did NOT sell for $375 so it's now relisted for $500.

One 14 inch is shown as being SOLD for $500, the same guy has another smaller one for sale with a handle for $350.

I will let you have one of my 14 inch Woks for $495.00...never used, brand new, right from Shanghai.

[craigster59]

I don't know if the other Pelicans have used their Cen woks yet. They are carbon steel and very light and thin. I think this really helps in their being able to get hot enough on a residential stove and making a good stir fry.

Also, meat and veggies should be sliced small and thin and be patted dry before adding to the wok, this helps for fast cooking and no sogginess.

[craigster59]

This would be comparable to a Cen Bros wok...
https://www.wokshop.com/newstore/product/the-wok-shop-hand-hammered-two-metal-loop-handles-wok/

By the way, I have a wok ring but never use it on my gas stove, the wok is stable enough and I'm usually holding it with one hand while cooking anyway.