This raises another question:

He is dragged out after refusing to leave.
Something happens to give him a bleeding face.
He gets free and walks back into the airplane in front of all the cameras!
He is videotaped muttering "kill, kill me".

Why would someone do that?
(A mature and upstanding 'doctor' no less. Has this been confirmed?)

The police claim he dropped and did it to himself.

(BTW I'm not condoning United actions in any way)

Looks like he took a good whack to the head against the armrest when they pulled him out of his seat and he was probably disoriented. He seemed limp when they dragged him out of the plane.

I understand he's Vietnamese as well, so I'm confused why he would claim to be Chinese. I bet he's looking at a $1-5M payday. Both him and UA should settle quickly. This staying in the news does neither of them any good.

You can clearly see his face hit the armrest of the seat across the aisle when he's pried out of his original seat.

I'm hoping for an in court settlement (which will likely never happen). I'd like to see sizeable punitive damages assessed to United and the Security Company and an end put to United (and other airlines over selling flights).

I didn't see the complete video but combined with his age that makes a lot of sense.
Thank you.

He is either a savvy/smart/experienced scammer, or he is a very innocent victim.

I was on an Air Canada flight from Toronto to LAX and they needed to bump passengers, they offered $400 for an eight hour delay on another flight. No one took it, when it got to $1,000 I took it. I was OK until I got the check in the mail $1,000 Canadian and I had to pay my CU another $40 to process it, plus the exchange rate. So at the time I netted about $800 USD.

I volunteered the one time it's happened to me. However, whatever over book didn't actually occur, I got to take my flight anyway.

The amount was quite generous, there was a bit of a rush I was near the desk and got a jump start.

but this as it has been pointed out was not over sold, just bad judgement by the people in charge bumping paying customers for employees. just stupid. I believe any thinking person could have got them on another carrier for cheap or nothing.

I don't think they planned on him getting back on, but he did because he wanted to go home.

He was taken off the second time forcably on a stretcher to the hospital from what I read.

I'm pretty sure by the time this is over, he may have his own plane, hahahah.

Not sure all the gunslingers here actually read a post several pages ago saying what really happened.
After initially leaving the plane on his own, he re-entered the aircraft without permission as in he charged back on the aircraft. At that point, he breached security and that is where everything was out of United's hands and airport security was in complete control of the situation.
Anybody here acting in the same manner would and should be removed from the aircraft and if not willingly, then with an appropriate level of force. His own actions seem to have exacerbated the situation. Don't hear much from the bleachers about personal responsibility so far.

This makes sense, and I can understand why he was dragged out of his seat forcibly. He was a security and safety risk to all the passengers.

So, the first time, he left the plane on his own, without being dragged out of his seat?

If the above is true, the Dr. is an idiot, and deserves everything he got.

Ditto!

And new air cooled 911's off the showroom.

United Airlines CEO Apologizes After Video Shows Man Dragged Off Flight
by DANIELLA SILVA and KURT CHIRBAS

The CEO of United Airlines apologized to customers on Monday following an incident on an overbooked flight where video appeared to show an elderly man being dragged from his seat and through the aisle of a plane.

Several videos posted on social media appeared to show three law enforcement officers pull a screaming man from his seat on the plane and then drag him by the arms down the aisle as shocked passengers look on. A witness told NBC News the ordeal began after the airline said the flight was overbooked and asked four customers to leave the plane and take a flight the following day.


"This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United," CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement. "I apologize for having to re-accommodate these customers. Our team is moving with a sense of urgency to work with authorities and conduct our own detailed review of what happened."

"We are also reaching out to this passenger to talk directly to him and further address and resolve this situation," he added in the statement.

The Chicago Department of Aviation said in a statement Monday afternoon that the incident was "not in accordance with" standard operating procedure and the officer's actions were "not condoned" by the department. The officer involved was placed on administrative leave effective Monday pending review of the situation, the department said.

The Chicago Police Department said in a statement earlier Monday that around 6 p.m. on Sunday, a 69-year-old passenger "became irate" after he was asked to leave the plane.

"The passenger in question began yelling to voice his displeasure at which point Aviation Police were summoned," police said in the statement.

Image: Security stand in the aisle before forcibly removing a United Airlines passenger from a plane

Police claimed the officers were attempting to carry the man off the flight "when he fell."

"His head subsequently struck an armrest causing injuries to his face," police said, adding that the man was taken to a hospital and treated for non-life threatening injuries. An investigation into the incident was still ongoing.

Multiple attempts to reach the Department of Aviation for comment were not immediately returned.

Tyler Bridges, who posted video of the incident on Twitter, told NBC News he and his wife were on the United plane at O'Hare International Airport from Chicago to Louisville on Sunday when a flight attendant said the flight was overbooked and four people would have to leave to make room for airline employees.

Bridges said the flight attendant offered an $800 voucher for anyone who would volunteer to get off the flight and leave the following day at 3 p.m.

"Nobody moved, nobody got up," he said.

When no one volunteered, Bridges said, a gate agent told them the airline had used an algorithm to randomly select four people to get off the plane.

First, a young couple was asked to leave and, "they're not happy, but they get off. No problem," Bridges said.

Then the unidentified man in the video was asked to leave, Bridges said.

"He says he's a doctor and has to be in Louisville in the morning to see patients," he said. "He says he can't be delayed a day."

The agent then said if the man did not leave, she was going to call security, according to Bridges.

The man refused, prompting a verbal exchange with law enforcement officers, Bridges said.

One of them "walks down the aisle and starts yelling at the man. He grabs him, throws him out of his seat and they drag him off," Bridges said.

"Everyone is disturbed," Bridges said. "It was kind of a dramatic scene."

After the man was dragged away, the four United employees boarded the flight, he said.

But a few minutes later, the man who was removed from the flight ran back on the plane, saying he needed to get back home.

"Somehow he got back on," Bridges said. "He runs back on — dazed, bloodied, kind of in a mess — yelling 'I have to get home, I have to get home.'"

The man was removed on a stretcher, "resisting the whole time," Bridges said.

It was unclear how the man returned to the plane and what happened after he was removed.

United confirmed in a statement late Sunday that a passenger was removed from the overbooked flight.

"Flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville was overbooked. After our team looked for volunteers, one customer refused to leave the aircraft voluntarily and law enforcement was asked to come to the gate," the company said in a statement.

We are here to keep you #united Dragging is strictly prohibited pic.twitter.com/CSjZD7fM4J
— Royal Jordanian (@RoyalJordanian) April 10, 2017
The company apologized for the overbooking situation and referred additional comment to authorities.

Bridges said passengers felt the man had been wronged.

"Airlines overbook flights all the time — that's not uncommon," Bridges said. "But everyone felt that they had wronged the man."

The flight was delayed three hours as a result of the incident, he added.

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Still yet a nice day.

I can only recall once taking the bump bait. Didn't bother me in the least and offset a nice portion nor missed out on my purpose or delay of trip. In my case, I considered it luck and timing. Not work related but a getaway ski time meeting friends in Jackson Hole.

It was such a long time ago but they re-arranged connection destinations, and a night in Denver. Skis and luggage went on the original flight / connections. Seamless and even though the re-arranged me the ping-pong, set me up nicely at the hotel, meal was a feast of steak, drinks. When I finally arrived at Jackson Hole, still got an afternoon in of skiing. No biggie and just missed out on the fresh AM slopes.

Now for the old school United-

Also, and highly doubt United still offers it, but they had at one time a nice portal at O'Hare direct for skiers to Vail. No special up-charge but it was all about catering and serving enough skiers on a regular basis. Called something like the Vail Express, whatever. Used it once and it was smooth going. Leave the bulky skis / gear bag with the porter at the United curb side service - perfect. Walk to the gate, done.

Its where I first became aware of the perks by getting bumped. The regulars on the busiest of times figured out the over booked game. There were some rich kids from the North Shore bragging about it -hehe.


Wishing all you regulars safe and smell free flight. :)

[just playing devils advocate against the airlines here]

He was about 70yo.
Paid for his own flight and sitting in his paid seat.
Stubborn old fart who has paid his way in life, standing up for his rights, or at least deserving of a complete and reasonable explanation with compensation.
A traveler. Tired. Without food or sleep.

Maybe he didn't understand these people yelling at him.
They should have given him the chance.

Suffered a severe bump on the head being dragged out.

Everything else following is a blur for any injured and confused old man...
GET BACK ON THE PLANE!!!
GET BACK HOME!!!
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY HOME!!!

Airport staff are unable to recognize a medical confusion situation.
Just like diabetes vs. drunk driving.

The entire original cause is based on inept corporate structure/lack of planing/overbooking/greed/and a healthy dose of inhumanity.

I also believe that once he is seated, his rights with respect to the airline change. Its different when he's at the gate, and has not boarded. He can easily be denied boarding for various reasons.

I'll have to head over to FlyerTalk and see what the experts are saying over there...

On PBS tonight, the man is recovering in the hospital and his attorney has hired two personal injury law firms one of which is the largest in the city. I vision multiple lawsuits.