Anyone a local surveyor in SoCal?

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by Cdnone1

Thanks for all of the responses.
If I'm going to go forward against the neighbor and fencing company I'm going to have to have it done by a licensed surveyor, though I really like the idea of putting in my own stakes and saying I had it surveyed.
The new neighbors bought the place, cut down my fence, installed the hideous thing and have only used their place a couple of time since so it could take them years to find the stakes.
I really just want to find out where my legal property lines are which is why I would like to get it surveyed. But the problem is there are no licensed surveyor in Big Bear, even though they advertise in Big Bear they are located "down the hill" and bill you travel, accommodations etc.

This is why I was hoping there was a licensed surveyor who would be interested in surveying my property in exchange for using the place for a vacation. The place is a mile from the golf course, a mile from the lake and butts against the Nation Forest for hiking.

I'll post or E-mail some more pictures if anyone is interested

I would call a couple of them and see if you can get an idea of price. I worked as a surveryor / party chief in SoCal, Cabo San Lucus, Colorado and Alaska for thirty years. I would get it done, if you do find a pipe or re bar close to where you think the corner is you won't know if it is correct or someone else just set them for looks. You really need someone to do it right if you care about the fence. If it's on his property the only recourse you will have is to put up a bigger one on your side to hide it. It isn't unheard of to find pipe/re bar a couple feet off in property surveys.

[nota]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

I would call a couple of them and see if you can get an idea of price. I worked as a surveryor / party chief in SoCal, Cabo San Lucus, Colorado and Alaska for thirty years. I would get it done, if you do find a pipe or re bar close to where you think the corner is you won't know if it is correct or someone else just set them for looks. You really need someone to do it right if you care about the fence. If it's on his property the only recourse you will have is to put up a bigger one on your side to hide it. It isn't unheard of to find pipe/re bar a couple feet off in property surveys.

I have never seen multi-points on a simple residential property corner
and have seen far more fences in the wrong place then a corner pipe more then a tenth off

now on center-line intersections yes I have seen 3 or 4 in worse cases
not talking about straddlers but center points set by mortgage survey guys
but quick and dirty was their game

I worked for the local county
we did every thing from section corners over kill but accurate

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by nota

I have never seen multi-points on a simple residential property corner
and have seen far more fences in the wrong place then a corner pipe more then a tenth off

now on center-line intersections yes I have seen 3 or 4 in worse cases
not talking about straddlers but center points set by mortgage survey guys
but quick and dirty was their game

I worked for the local country
we did every thing from section corners over kill but accurate

I have seen my fair share of double property corners, in some cases I come to find out the neighbor or homeowner pounded a similar rebar into the ground where they thought they remembered the actual corner being.

I always beg people who want to reference property corners to use PVC Pipe, it lasts forever and will not interfere with our markers.

When I set an intersection nail, I put my disc on it. I also take it pretty seriously, since I typically work in platted General Development communities (Port St. Lucie) we are working with 1960's record plats which are pretty decent. When an intersection PCP has been destroyed we run out all the blocks around it before setting it, then set it once we feel we found what matches the best.

I am always amazed when I come back 4-10 years later and find a nail and tin tab slammed into the pavement near it. Of course, not enough balls to put your ID in there just a random tin tab.

There is an intersection here, not sure if it a joke or not, I came up on it several years ago, there has to be 10 nails in there. I remembered taking a CE class with a similar picture ( I have to try to find mine) and told the class we were all pussies if we did not slam a nail in there with the rest of them. I have to wonder if that is what is going on here.

Originally Posted by SCadaddle

The old "Down and Dirty": Go buy a handful of wooden stakes, a black marker and some plastic flagging. YOU get to pick the color of the flagging. When your neighbor is away, set the stakes in a line 10' or more on HIS side of the problem property line for the length of the line. Flag them up well and write "Property Line" on the stakes. Rest assured when he sees that he WILL flip out and knock on your door. Tell him you had the "line" surveyed and those stakes are the result. If he doesn't agree that it is correct he is welcome to......hire his own Surveyor to determine the boundary.....at his cost.

This is the most devious and brilliant idea I have ever seen. I am stealing it to use when I have clients that want me to survey land in order to fight with an ahole neighbor.

[Cdnone1]

Just a bump for any surveyors.
I was up there yesterday, sure is beautiful in the mountains

[Cdnone1]

[nota]

where is the disputed fence ?

the white fence at the rear ?

[Cdnone1]

Yes it is the white fence in the backyard. I have a double lot (50 feet) so I have two neighbors along the rear property line. The one neighbor just leaned a wire fence with no poles for support against my fence then piled all of their crap against it until it knocked over my fence. The other neighbor had a fencing company cut down the section of my fence behind their property and instal their nice shiny plastic fence.
This is why I want to establish the property line legally, that way I know what I can do.

[nota]

so you have a 50 ft lot double divided lot
with 3 points on the rear line 25ft apart exactly if undisturbed

no real Ca knowledge but 25 ft lots should be plated
and your structure should be building permitted with a plan on file with the city
joker is if the rear single story bit is on the original plan or an add on

the quick way with no digging [but I would dig the three points ]
is get the building plan and measure from the building corner to the fence line

your local public works or building dept should have the plan

[BeyGon]

Lots of problems here, you had a fence, they had a fence, everyone thought it was ok, but now maybe not.
You might find the same corners the people did that put up a new fence, if they found any. You still won't know if they are correct or not and no court is going to do anything for you without a survey.

[SCadaddle]

This is the most devious and brilliant idea I have ever seen. I am stealing it to use when I have clients that want me to survey land in order to fight with an ahole neighbor.

Thanks. I learned that at a Continuing Education Seminar. I paid a lot to attend that seminar.