Ford F-250 SD. Radiator problem?

[tevake]

My brother has a 2008 F 250 super duty diesel turbo truck.
He had replace the radiator less than three years ago.
Resently he took it to a dealer to get it checked out.
They told him that the radiator needs replacing again, to the tune of $2,300 again.

Well this issue is turning an otherwise very nice truck into a money pit.

So my question here is what is a better solution than just replacing with another soon to fail part.

Anyone run into this before. Or have a better solution to offer?

Thanks, Richard

[ckelly78z]

Stay away from upselling dealerships who are only in it for more future repairs.

Find a grassroots mechanic who is honest, and reasonable.

[VincentVega]

Doesnt look too bad, but I've never done it. I cant see how 2300 isnt 2x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLTeUZN4BR4

[RANDY P]

what's the root cause of popping radiator? Are they known for this?

Does it drink water before the symptom is known?

[Mad Max]

That is way too much money for a radiator replacement. Unarmed robbery?

I own a 2004 6.0 SD and I run Caterpillar antifreeze and an inline filter to keep the fluid clean.

[DerkPerk]

The first run of the 6.4, which was 2008 is know for bad radiators but being replaced once before that should have been fixed. There is no way I'd go with a Ford part again. Check into mishimoto or Al radiator company. Both should offer a great aftermarket problem.

As mad max said, cat ELC is a great product along with a bypass filter.


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[speeder]

$2300 to replace this radiator?

CSF 3642 OEM Replacement Radiator

He needs to learn all about this crazy new invention called, "the internet". It can really educate someone quickly about almost any subject imaginable.

Here is a significantly upgraded Mishimoto radiator for that application, read the description carefully before installing another OEM radiator:

Mishimoto Radiator 08-10 Ford F-250 F-350 F-450 F-550 V8 6.4L Powerstroke | eBay

The 6.4 Powerstroke is one of the worst engines ever foisted on the buying public. Every one of them fails, 100%. I'm surprised that it didn't kill Ford's market share in light diesel trucks, they did one of the quickest fixes in history by dumping their association w International and developing their own in-house Diesel engine program w the 6.7 Powerstroke, (still being sold).

Even using an accelerated development program and bottomless pockets, they had to have started the 6.7 program the minute they tested the first 6.4 for production. The warrantee claims from fleet sales had to be enormous. It is simply a defective engine. The radiator problems are a direct result of compression issues.

The only humane thing to do w one is to park it near the Mexican border w the keys in the ignition. It's immoral to sell it to a fellow American and hopefully it would blow up while being chased by the border patrol in one of the two countries.

[DerkPerk]

Originally Posted by speeder

The only humane thing to do w one is to park it near the Mexican border w the keys in the ignition. It's immoral to sell it to a fellow American and hopefully it would blow up while being chased by the border patrol in one of the two countries.

Lol. So true. I used to catch hell for owning a 6.0 from a 6.4 guy. He was soon on the other side of he joke.

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[RANDY P]

So it's just a POS.

Trade it. ram it up the dealer's arse.

rjp

[tevake]

Thanks for the info and links.
I've been looking into this model myself a did find the Mishimoto all metal unit.
It and their follow up research into fixing the cooling system flaws, seems to be a good way to go.

Yep I've also heard some horror stories about the 6.4 diesel.
But his has been good for him, other than this repeted radiator issue.
Fingers crossed.

So perhaps we are inroute to a lasting fix for his cooling issues.

Denis, could you expand on how the compression issues plays into the cooling system problems?
There is mention of pressure spikes contributing to the radiator problems.

I'll just keep the horror stories to myself for now.

Thanks Richard

[Arizona_928]

I'm guessing pressurized coolant.

[tevake]

^^ Are you saying that engine cylinder compression can end up in cooling system?

Whew, that doesn't sound good, how would that happen?

Not much diesel experence myself.

Cheers Richard

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by tevake

^^ Are you saying that engine cylinder compression can end up in cooling system?

Whew, that doesn't sound good, how would that happen?

Not much diesel experence myself.

Cheers Richard

LOL it's a Ford; HG and head studs.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by speeder

$2300 to replace this radiator?

CSF 3642 OEM Replacement Radiator

He needs to learn all about this crazy new invention called, "the internet". It can really educate someone quickly about almost any subject imaginable.

Here is a significantly upgraded Mishimoto radiator for that application, read the description carefully before installing another OEM radiator:

Mishimoto Radiator 08-10 Ford F-250 F-350 F-450 F-550 V8 6.4L Powerstroke | eBay

The 6.4 Powerstroke is one of the worst engines ever foisted on the buying public. Every one of them fails, 100%. I'm surprised that it didn't kill Ford's market share in light diesel trucks, they did one of the quickest fixes in history by dumping their association w International and developing their own in-house Diesel engine program w the 6.7 Powerstroke, (still being sold).

Even using an accelerated development program and bottomless pockets, they had to have started the 6.7 program the minute they tested the first 6.4 for production. The warrantee claims from fleet sales had to be enormous. It is simply a defective engine. The radiator problems are a direct result of compression issues.

The only humane thing to do w one is to park it near the Mexican border w the keys in the ignition. It's immoral to sell it to a fellow American and hopefully it would blow up while being chased by the border patrol in one of the two countries.

I was having "smoking" problems with my 2010 with the International motor. If I did hard acceleration making a left turn, I would start creating a smoke screen. It was white smoke. I'm pretty sure that was diesel fuel getting in the crankcase and the oil would slop around on that hard left.

In 2014, with FORD not listening to my complaints about this issue, I bought a 2014 while the 2010 was still under Warranty...