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speeder 08-01-2017 04:02 PM

"Can I get a..."
 
Alternate title: The Death of Manners.

Maybe it's always been this way but people just seem like mooks these days. Ordering food just now and the ladies next to me, (plenty old, BTW), says, "and can I get a Pastrami on rye?", or something.

I don't know, lady. Can you? :rolleyes:

The nuns would have slapped the teeth out of my mouth if they ever heard me talk like that back in grade school. Same with, "I'll do a...", while ordering food. WTF is wrong w people? And I hear it from Beverly Hills to the 'hood.

And GTFO my lawn, while you're at it. :)

Baz 08-01-2017 04:04 PM

TNN

(the new normal)

ckelly78z 08-02-2017 02:00 AM

Laziness, and a self entitled belief that they are an important person.

KFC911 08-02-2017 02:18 AM

The musta never played "Mother, may I" as a youngin' :(

I was taught to say please and thank you, use Sir and Ma'am without thinking....a good friend's wife was sort of insulted (not really) when I said "yes ma'am" one time....she ain't from around here :)

My peeve...

Thank you!

...No problem

Now get off my lawn!!!

drcoastline 08-02-2017 02:39 AM

The person may have been trying to be funny? From your post I would assume not, just being a smart azz.

Over all you are correct. Things like manners, respect, kindness, etc. aren't taught or demanded any longer. In fact it is frowned upon if you demand them. Society in general has been dumbed down,. The nuns aren't allowed to slap the teeth out of your mouth any longer, Neither is your dad. There was a time when mom said "wait till your father gets home". Huh! now you're a lucky kid if you know who your father is.

Respect, manners etc. aren't taught or demanded any longer. There was a time people strove to be better. Now it is a race to the bottom.

My daughters mother and I have been separated many, many years. I have spent most her (my daughters) life in family court. Mind you my opponent was not my Ex but the "system". So any way, after years of battle I some what prevailed. I regained 50/50 time and I am the custodial parent. I believe in proper etiquette, speech, manners, and so on. One of my pet peeves is chewing with your mouth open, speaking with food in your mouth, not placing your napkin on your lap and holding your utensils properly.

So just two weeks ago we are out to breakfast. My daughter is holding her fork on the third finger down and backward. Now we have been through this countless times. So I watch, and I watch, and I watch to see if she corrects it. Finally I tell her to stop eating and look at the way she is holding her fork and to hold it properly. She explodes and says You ruin every meal. That's how I hold it. :mad:

Now get off my frickin lawn

EDIT: That was the end of breakfast. I got the check and we left. Don't hold the fork properly and you won't eat.

I told you to get off my Frickin lawn.

Baz 08-02-2017 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 9685218)
---snip--- She explodes and says You ruin every meal. That's how I hold it. :mad:

---snip---

Take some satisfaction in knowing one day she will be grateful you cared enough to give her this discipline.

That's how it works.

Keep up the good fight, sir...SmileWavy

KFC911 08-02-2017 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 9685218)
....

So just two weeks ago we are out to breakfast. My daughter is holding her fork on the third finger down and backward. Now we have been through this countless times....

I just quit eating with my fingers a few years back, but I don't even know what you mean by "backward"? It's a fork, and I'm lefty though....

I'm quite sure I'm probably doing it "wrong" :)

cashflyer 08-02-2017 03:44 AM

Sometimes stuff like this bothers me. Sometimes I think, what ****ing difference does it make.

You're born. You muddle through life. You die.

When you're in the ground, will people be standing around talking about your perfect diction and manners?

Will a teenage girl holding her fork in a way that somebody deems 'proper' help to end world suffering? Or does it just show that she can be trained, like a dog?

Baz 08-02-2017 03:55 AM

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matthewb0051 08-02-2017 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9684735)
Alternate title: The Death of Manners.

"and can I get a Pastrami on rye?", or something.

:)


My personal (not) favorite: can I get XXX WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE

It is their job. So what difference does it make if they have a chance? You ask for something they bring it plain and simple. Just say please.

BTW, my lovely wife says this...

recycled sixtie 08-02-2017 04:54 AM

I think the headline is minor. Just have decent manners. Forget the f word and treat others the way you would want to be treated. I don't know anybody that lives in a Downton Manor scenario.

sammyg2 08-02-2017 05:33 AM

Me:
"I'll have the steak."

Waiter:
"how would you like your steak cooked?"

Me" Yeah, that'd be great. Thanks".



ba da bump.

wdfifteen 08-02-2017 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9685331)
Waiter:
"how would you like your steak cooked?"

Me" Yeah, that'd be great. Thanks".

Comas save lives.

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sammyg2 08-02-2017 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9685337)


with two emmmms or one? SmileWavy



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flatbutt 08-02-2017 06:04 AM

Table manners have always been a pet peeve of mine. I don't know if this counts as manners but I'm put off by what I refer to as "tongue eaters". People who extend their tongue allll the way out as if they need to catch each bite of their food on it.

Don Ro 08-02-2017 06:11 AM

^^^
I had a tennis buddy who did this the first time I invited him to lunch after a match.
A talented tennis player but from that point on we only played tennis.
I almost barfed at the table.
.
Edit: What I meant is that he would eat with his mouth open...as if he wanted me to see whatever was in his mouth.

matthewb0051 08-02-2017 06:23 AM

I also prefer Continental Style of utensil use over the American Style. Just don't see a reason to switch utensils from one hand to the other. Supposedly American spies were discovered in Germany during WWII just by this simple thing.

My other peeve is when someone holds a fork with the full fist like they are trying to kill the food. It is already dead.

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Holger 08-02-2017 06:31 AM

^Sorry, but that is just barbaric.

Wetwork 08-02-2017 06:32 AM

If you think you have proper and good manners you're full of it, you're not even close. Two words, Emily Post.

Every time I see those books I start using the F-word like a comma.-WW

ps. OK not really, I do and have "class" as my Father puts it he-he,
sadly Emily's standards are fast becoming a lost art. But if you want to be right and proper her's are the really real rules, anything less is caveman.

KFC911 08-02-2017 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 9685379)
.....

My other peeve is when someone holds a fork with the full fist like they are trying to kill the food. It is already dead.

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Well, stick a fork in me, I'm done :)

I know one thing though....if'n I get up to leave the table, I'm not gonna place my napkin on the filthy, germ ridden seat, where thousands have been parking their asses :(. And I don't GAF what anyone thinks of my etty...I quit....that's just gross....

ckelly78z 08-02-2017 07:07 AM

Emily Post manners are for the elite, and not needed for the most part in everyday American dining. This doesn't mean that you can stab your food with your fork, or have to put up with "tongue eaters" (that's just gross). It does mean that you need to use a napkin properly, not reach across the table for something, and chew with your mouth closed, and not speak until it's empty.

red-beard 08-02-2017 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9684735)
And GTFO my lawn, while you're at it. :)

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sammyg2 08-02-2017 07:16 AM

Does the plastic spoon go next to the plastic fork or next to the paper plate, and are you gonna eat your cheese paper?

KFC911 08-02-2017 07:17 AM

Like a lot of Southerners, I've been watching black & white Andy Griffith reruns my whole life...still do. You can learn a lot from that show imo. I learned table manners from Briscoe Darling...

BREAD!!!

asphaltgambler 08-02-2017 08:01 AM

This thread should be titled.............................People with No Home Trainin'...............

john70t 08-02-2017 08:12 AM

^+1 cashflyer

I've been a waiter several times and I wouldn't have taken offense to that phrase. It's not conforming in the most proper of highbrow english standards but it conveys the message. And of course a 'thanks' goes a long way. Communication is 95% non-verbal anyways. Haven't you ever met those guy/gals who uses the correct verbiage but look you up and down disapprovingly with a half sneer on their face followed by a dismissive wave or a blank wall like they are a robot? I'd prefer to be around the first any day of the week.

sammyg2 08-02-2017 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9685453)
Like a lot of Southerners, I've been watching black & white Andy Griffith reruns my whole life...still do. You can learn a lot from that show imo. I learned table manners from Briscoe Darling...

BREAD!!!

I can take a bossy mouth, but I ain't about to be beat to death with no spoon.

Baz 08-02-2017 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9685408)
---snip---on the filthy, germ ridden seat, where thousands have been parking their asses ---snip---that's just gross....

Just think about where their hands and fingers have been........they were just at your table earlier......now those grubby filthy hands and fingers were ALL OVER everything in front of you....table....plate.....cup....glass....bowl.... ..silverware.....chair.....bar top....seat.....doorways......

Now tell me again why going out to eat is a "treat"?

:eek:

Baz 08-02-2017 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9685357)
Table manners have always been a pet peeve of mine. I don't know if this counts as manners but I'm put off by what I refer to as "tongue eaters". People who extend their tongue allll the way out as if they need to catch each bite of their food on it.

I see them everyday......:D

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Charles Freeborn 08-02-2017 08:51 AM

Don't get me started on this topic.... from someone that says " please, thank you, excuse me....." and holds doors for other people, and when greeted by anyone (like a restaurant server) always asks how they are.... and actually listens to the answer.... as for when I'm in the ground I certainly hope they say I was kind and polite...

Don Ro 08-02-2017 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9685367)
^^^
I had a tennis buddy who did this the first time I invited him to lunch after a match.
A talented tennis player but from that point on we only played tennis.
I almost barfed at the table.
.
Edit: What I meant is that he would eat with his mouth open...as if he wanted me to see whatever was in his mouth.

:eek:

Don Ro 08-02-2017 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9685602)
Don't get me started on this topic.... from someone that says " please, thank you, excuse me....." and holds doors for other people, and when greeted by anyone (like a restaurant server) always asks how they are.... and actually listens to the answer.... as for when I'm in the ground I certainly hope they say I was kind and polite...

Was thinking about something like this recently...head stone that might say, "A Generous Man."
.
Folks raised in the South tend to have manners and are polite, I've noticed.

billybek 08-02-2017 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9685550)
Just think about where their hands and fingers have been........they were just at your table earlier......now those grubby filthy hands and fingers were ALL OVER everything in front of you....table....plate.....cup....glass....bowl.... ..silverware.....chair.....bar top....seat.....doorways......

Now tell me again why going out to eat is a "treat"?

:eek:

Gentlemen, may I introduce Jerry Seinfeld.... ;)

Being exposed to germs and viruses is good for your immune system!
I remember going to my GP years ago and his kid was eating Cheerios off the carpet in the waiting room.
Yuck!

craigster59 08-02-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9685453)
Like a lot of Southerners, I've been watching black & white Andy Griffith reruns my whole life...still do. You can learn a lot from that show imo. I learned table manners from Briscoe Darling...

BREAD!!!

I just watched that episode the other day. "Meat"!

onewhippedpuppy 08-02-2017 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9685610)
Was thinking about something like this recently...head stone that might say, "A Generous Man."
.
Folks raised in the South tend to have manners and are polite, I've noticed.

And then they turn around and talk trash the moment you are out of earshot. The midwest is similar. I'll take someone honest and forthcoming over a well polished facade.

Remind me to not have dinner with some of you guys, I won't be able to measure up.SmileWavy

Por_sha911 08-02-2017 09:19 AM

For 11 years I was on the board and volunteered to work with a inner city youth center that reached street kids and drug addicts. When a teen (or 20 something) said "do you have the time?" I would look down at my watch, look up, and say "Yes" and then go about whatever I was doing? Likewise when they said "Can I...?" my reply was "I don't know. Can you?" After a while, the veteran kids would shout out across the room the proper way to say it. They took pride in knowing something the other kid didn't.

I firmly believe that the degradation of the youth is based on a lack of parental restrictions growing up and a lack of self worth. For example, young girls became sluts because no one monitored and restricted their activities, told them the dangers, and they didn't think a guy would care about them unless they "put out". The ones that had self respect weren't as susceptible to peer pressure because they thought more of themselves. But I digress.

matthewb0051 08-02-2017 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9685453)
Like a lot of Southerners, I've been watching black & white Andy Griffith reruns my whole life...still do. You can learn a lot from that show imo. I learned table manners from Briscoe Darling...

BREAD!!!


One could say that everything you need to know about life and how to act you learned from The Andy Griffith Show.

I was just singing 'a cappella' the other day. I forgot the words but know the tune ;)

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sammyg2 08-02-2017 09:45 AM

When I grow up I wanna be Rafe Hollister.

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speeder 08-02-2017 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 9685250)
Sometimes stuff like this bothers me. Sometimes I think, what ****ing difference does it make.

You're born. You muddle through life. You die.

When you're in the ground, will people be standing around talking about your perfect diction and manners?

Will a teenage girl holding her fork in a way that somebody deems 'proper' help to end world suffering? Or does it just show that she can be trained, like a dog?

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9685541)
^+1 cashflyer

I've been a waiter several times and I wouldn't have taken offense to that phrase. It's not conforming in the most proper of highbrow english standards but it conveys the message. And of course a 'thanks' goes a long way. Communication is 95% non-verbal anyways. Haven't you ever met those guy/gals who uses the correct verbiage but look you up and down disapprovingly with a half sneer on their face followed by a dismissive wave or a blank wall like they are a robot? I'd prefer to be around the first any day of the week.

Here's the thing... I'm not talking about "highbrow" manners, whatever those are. We live in an informal world, (at least most of the time), but people can still show basic manners. Saying, "I'll do the...", without a please or thank you just makes you a low life POS, in my book. In the book of anyone who was raised properly.

"I'll do the..." Are you going to fk the roast beef sandwich? What the hell does that even mean? :confused:

There is nothing wrong w Sammy saying, "I'll have the steak." A *please* would be nice but NBD. If he said, "Can I have the steak?", I'd say, "I dunno, how fast can you run? That steak is a mover."

It's about basic communication and consideration for other people at the end of he day. Manners are just a way of acknowledging that there are other people in your presence and they have rights as well, like to not see someone chew food w their mouth open. :)

wildthing 08-02-2017 01:31 PM

You know I wouldn't mind a tongue eater who's hot...


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