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"Can I get a..."
Alternate title: The Death of Manners.
Maybe it's always been this way but people just seem like mooks these days. Ordering food just now and the ladies next to me, (plenty old, BTW), says, "and can I get a Pastrami on rye?", or something. I don't know, lady. Can you? :rolleyes: The nuns would have slapped the teeth out of my mouth if they ever heard me talk like that back in grade school. Same with, "I'll do a...", while ordering food. WTF is wrong w people? And I hear it from Beverly Hills to the 'hood. And GTFO my lawn, while you're at it. :) |
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Laziness, and a self entitled belief that they are an important person.
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The musta never played "Mother, may I" as a youngin' :(
I was taught to say please and thank you, use Sir and Ma'am without thinking....a good friend's wife was sort of insulted (not really) when I said "yes ma'am" one time....she ain't from around here :) My peeve... Thank you! ...No problem Now get off my lawn!!! |
The person may have been trying to be funny? From your post I would assume not, just being a smart azz.
Over all you are correct. Things like manners, respect, kindness, etc. aren't taught or demanded any longer. In fact it is frowned upon if you demand them. Society in general has been dumbed down,. The nuns aren't allowed to slap the teeth out of your mouth any longer, Neither is your dad. There was a time when mom said "wait till your father gets home". Huh! now you're a lucky kid if you know who your father is. Respect, manners etc. aren't taught or demanded any longer. There was a time people strove to be better. Now it is a race to the bottom. My daughters mother and I have been separated many, many years. I have spent most her (my daughters) life in family court. Mind you my opponent was not my Ex but the "system". So any way, after years of battle I some what prevailed. I regained 50/50 time and I am the custodial parent. I believe in proper etiquette, speech, manners, and so on. One of my pet peeves is chewing with your mouth open, speaking with food in your mouth, not placing your napkin on your lap and holding your utensils properly. So just two weeks ago we are out to breakfast. My daughter is holding her fork on the third finger down and backward. Now we have been through this countless times. So I watch, and I watch, and I watch to see if she corrects it. Finally I tell her to stop eating and look at the way she is holding her fork and to hold it properly. She explodes and says You ruin every meal. That's how I hold it. :mad: Now get off my frickin lawn EDIT: That was the end of breakfast. I got the check and we left. Don't hold the fork properly and you won't eat. I told you to get off my Frickin lawn. |
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That's how it works. Keep up the good fight, sir...SmileWavy |
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I'm quite sure I'm probably doing it "wrong" :) |
Sometimes stuff like this bothers me. Sometimes I think, what ****ing difference does it make.
You're born. You muddle through life. You die. When you're in the ground, will people be standing around talking about your perfect diction and manners? Will a teenage girl holding her fork in a way that somebody deems 'proper' help to end world suffering? Or does it just show that she can be trained, like a dog? |
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My personal (not) favorite: can I get XXX WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE It is their job. So what difference does it make if they have a chance? You ask for something they bring it plain and simple. Just say please. BTW, my lovely wife says this... |
I think the headline is minor. Just have decent manners. Forget the f word and treat others the way you would want to be treated. I don't know anybody that lives in a Downton Manor scenario.
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"I'll have the steak." Waiter: "how would you like your steak cooked?" Me" Yeah, that'd be great. Thanks". ba da bump. |
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with two emmmms or one? SmileWavy http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1501681811.jpg |
Table manners have always been a pet peeve of mine. I don't know if this counts as manners but I'm put off by what I refer to as "tongue eaters". People who extend their tongue allll the way out as if they need to catch each bite of their food on it.
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I had a tennis buddy who did this the first time I invited him to lunch after a match. A talented tennis player but from that point on we only played tennis. I almost barfed at the table. . Edit: What I meant is that he would eat with his mouth open...as if he wanted me to see whatever was in his mouth. |
I also prefer Continental Style of utensil use over the American Style. Just don't see a reason to switch utensils from one hand to the other. Supposedly American spies were discovered in Germany during WWII just by this simple thing.
My other peeve is when someone holds a fork with the full fist like they are trying to kill the food. It is already dead. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1501683808.jpg |
^Sorry, but that is just barbaric.
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If you think you have proper and good manners you're full of it, you're not even close. Two words, Emily Post.
Every time I see those books I start using the F-word like a comma.-WW ps. OK not really, I do and have "class" as my Father puts it he-he, sadly Emily's standards are fast becoming a lost art. But if you want to be right and proper her's are the really real rules, anything less is caveman. |
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I know one thing though....if'n I get up to leave the table, I'm not gonna place my napkin on the filthy, germ ridden seat, where thousands have been parking their asses :(. And I don't GAF what anyone thinks of my etty...I quit....that's just gross.... |
Emily Post manners are for the elite, and not needed for the most part in everyday American dining. This doesn't mean that you can stab your food with your fork, or have to put up with "tongue eaters" (that's just gross). It does mean that you need to use a napkin properly, not reach across the table for something, and chew with your mouth closed, and not speak until it's empty.
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Does the plastic spoon go next to the plastic fork or next to the paper plate, and are you gonna eat your cheese paper?
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Like a lot of Southerners, I've been watching black & white Andy Griffith reruns my whole life...still do. You can learn a lot from that show imo. I learned table manners from Briscoe Darling...
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This thread should be titled.............................People with No Home Trainin'...............
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I've been a waiter several times and I wouldn't have taken offense to that phrase. It's not conforming in the most proper of highbrow english standards but it conveys the message. And of course a 'thanks' goes a long way. Communication is 95% non-verbal anyways. Haven't you ever met those guy/gals who uses the correct verbiage but look you up and down disapprovingly with a half sneer on their face followed by a dismissive wave or a blank wall like they are a robot? I'd prefer to be around the first any day of the week. |
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Now tell me again why going out to eat is a "treat"? :eek: |
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Don't get me started on this topic.... from someone that says " please, thank you, excuse me....." and holds doors for other people, and when greeted by anyone (like a restaurant server) always asks how they are.... and actually listens to the answer.... as for when I'm in the ground I certainly hope they say I was kind and polite...
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. Folks raised in the South tend to have manners and are polite, I've noticed. |
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Being exposed to germs and viruses is good for your immune system! I remember going to my GP years ago and his kid was eating Cheerios off the carpet in the waiting room. Yuck! |
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Remind me to not have dinner with some of you guys, I won't be able to measure up.SmileWavy |
For 11 years I was on the board and volunteered to work with a inner city youth center that reached street kids and drug addicts. When a teen (or 20 something) said "do you have the time?" I would look down at my watch, look up, and say "Yes" and then go about whatever I was doing? Likewise when they said "Can I...?" my reply was "I don't know. Can you?" After a while, the veteran kids would shout out across the room the proper way to say it. They took pride in knowing something the other kid didn't.
I firmly believe that the degradation of the youth is based on a lack of parental restrictions growing up and a lack of self worth. For example, young girls became sluts because no one monitored and restricted their activities, told them the dangers, and they didn't think a guy would care about them unless they "put out". The ones that had self respect weren't as susceptible to peer pressure because they thought more of themselves. But I digress. |
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One could say that everything you need to know about life and how to act you learned from The Andy Griffith Show. I was just singing 'a cappella' the other day. I forgot the words but know the tune ;) <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3YenTgqVj9I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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"I'll do the..." Are you going to fk the roast beef sandwich? What the hell does that even mean? :confused: There is nothing wrong w Sammy saying, "I'll have the steak." A *please* would be nice but NBD. If he said, "Can I have the steak?", I'd say, "I dunno, how fast can you run? That steak is a mover." It's about basic communication and consideration for other people at the end of he day. Manners are just a way of acknowledging that there are other people in your presence and they have rights as well, like to not see someone chew food w their mouth open. :) |
You know I wouldn't mind a tongue eater who's hot...
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