Friend with anxiety attacks

[tabs]

I have become PERFECT in my imperfections...or should I say that I have PERFECTED them...When the Screws come loose I just throw them away...if they are not lying around to remind you well they just don't exist...

[Rickysa]

A WHOLE SOLID YEAR....

SOUNDS LIKE you expect instant gratification....MAYBE it is because you have been watching toooo much TV where ALL situations are resolved in the ONE HOUR format.

I have no desire to argue with you. You simply have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Living with this without help is hell.

Continuing the discussion for anyone else that may be suffering from this horrible affliction, there is hope. Try CBT first with a therapist. Don't just go to a GP and get a scrip for Xanax (lousy med as it causes rebound anxiety when it wears off) to use as needed. If you don't get anywhere, go see a psychiatrist to discuss your particular situation. Many times it can be a number of things contributing to the panic/anxiety.

I am not one to reach for a pill at the first sign or symptom, but there are times when meds are indicated...don't cut off that avenue for help.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Rickysa

I have no desire to argue with you. You simply have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Continuing the discussion for anyone else that may be suffering from this horrible affliction, there is hope. Try CBT first with a therapist. Don't just go to a GP and get a scrip for Xanax (lousy med as it causes rebound anxiety when it wears off) to use as needed. If you don't get anywhere, go see a psychiatrist to discuss your particular situation. Many times it can be a number of things contributing to the panic/anxiety.

I am not one to reach for a pill at the first sign or symptom, but there are times when meds are indicated...don't cut off that avenue for help.

Far be it for me to tell you to get off the Meds, you need them...they take off the rough edges so you don't go on the roller coaster ride...

But unless you go the CBT route you will never get off the Meds, as you will never get to the bottom...

But as far as not knowing what I am talking about, I know some people that would heartily disagree with you on that assessment.

Human beings live with a lot of fear and anxiety in their natural state (Lions, Bears and Tigers Ohhh my). You have to be able to roll with the punches, and discover WHY it is that the switch is pulled that causes you to go to panic mode.

Sometimes panic mode is the appropriate mode if you should find yourself confronted with a Great White that is two feet away with it's mouth open...cause you is gona be that tasty little snack for lunch.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by tabs

You really are clueless..

If you correlate caffeine with an anxiety attacks you are out to lunch. Caffeine is a stimulant that has a physical reaction on your body. An anxiety attack is an emotional state of feeling panic. Usually a state of feeling that you have no way out of an intolerable state of affairs.

The complex cocktail of hormones, caffeine and nicotine flowing though ones body puts any anology to a collection of automotive parts to shame.

Ever deal with a woman with PMS?

Ever try to get a drunk to shut up?

When it comes to the human body and mind, there are no clear cut lines between the alcohol/drugs/hormones and state of mind, they are all suspended and having a party in the same body of fluid.

If I were to make an automotive anology, it might be the motor oil one. The best oil is the one out of the bottle that has been balanced and tested. Leave the additives alone and left on the store shelf.

[berettafan]

Nothing scientific about this but during a brief period when I was taking beta blockers I found my anxiety level dropped dramatically. was more focused and generally a more useful human being.

my understanding is this is a far, far less intrusive drug than things like Xanax.

I debate from time to time about asking doc to put me back on it.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by kach22i

The complex cocktail of hormones, caffeine and nicotine flowing though ones body puts any anology to a collection of automotive parts to shame.

Ever deal with a woman with PMS?

Ever try to get a drunk to shut up?

When it comes to the human body and mind, there are no clear cut lines between the alcohol/drugs/hormones and state of mind, they are all suspended and having a party in the same body of fluid.

If I were to make an automotive anology, it might be the motor oil one. The best oil is the one out of the bottle that has been balanced and tested. Leave the additives alone and left on the store shelf.

So Sherlock why do some drunks become happy while others become mean?

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by tabs

So Sherlock why do some drunks become happy while others become mean?

They are down a quart of oil?

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

Have you friend Google "benefits of Magnesium". Most Americans are defecient and this is a calming mineral. Best absorbed topically (i.e., magnesium crystals in bath (not epsom salts), or magnesium oil applied oto skin.

I once got a hair sample (voodoo left wing?) analysis and it used a highly reactive electrical field plate to measure the chemical composition of my material somehow.
Highly speculative or highly accurate? I don't know. Maybe both.

The results said I was low on Mg, so I took it, and within days felt immediately better in digestion/joints at least.

Too much and I got looser bm but no other side effects other than a temporary metallic taste sensation in my mouth.
I stopped taking it and returned to previous baseline immediately.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by tabs

You are equating your emotional response of fear with a physical one. Your adrenaline boost can stimulate your body (BP) which then can cause you to FEEL (which is an emotional state) even more fear that something is going to blow up. Butat the end of the day panic is an emotional state. It is how you are dealing with your situation. Remember fight or flight.

Now you see your interpretation is just a little short sighted in your delineations. You lack the thinking through... A + B = ??????

I'm thinking just fine. You are so confused you are talking in circles.

[Tobra]

1. Your friend is not being entirely truthful with you.

2. He is either smoking way too much weed, or not nearly enough.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by Tobra

1. Your friend is not being entirely truthful with you.

2. He is either smoking way too much weed, or not nearly enough.

My friend is in sales, I think that covers it. Add in buying a house and remodeling it, could have been the thing that pushed him over the edge.

A couple of years ago I used to come into the cigar lounge after an very early morning workout. He would be there watching all of the stock prices on Fox News.

I asked him about a year ago why he no longer does that, and he said everything went into the house, the house I designed an addition for.

Remodeling on this scale can be stressful, some marriages don't survive. His girl friend of many years is very withdrawn, he is the extrovert. The relationship seems to be weathering the storm but I think he's bearing most of the burden.

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A college friend of my wife had a prescription for pot, he suffered from anxiety after breaking up with his boyfriend. He used it as a sleeping aid for several years, but then had to travel for a conference out of state.

He didn't bring his stuff with him, and found that he had grown reliant on it in order to get to sleep. He decided he didn't want this crutch anymore and kicked the habit. It was tough at first but I'm told he's glad he did it.

Why trade one problem for another?

[NY65912]

Originally Posted by rickysa

i have no desire to argue with you. You simply have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Living with this without help is hell.

Continuing the discussion for anyone else that may be suffering from this horrible affliction, there is hope. Try cbt first with a therapist. Don't just go to a gp and get a scrip for xanax (lousy med as it causes rebound anxiety when it wears off) to use as needed. If you don't get anywhere, go see a psychiatrist to discuss your particular situation. Many times it can be a number of things contributing to the panic/anxiety.

I am not one to reach for a pill at the first sign or symptom, but there are times when meds are indicated...don't cut off that avenue for help.

amen