Classics/Clunkers

[MMiller]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

The Narrow Camaro had it's moment:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/cosworth-vega/1965650.html

I always thought they had a nice look while the execution lacked. They made a great looking funny car!

[72doug2,2S]

Agreed 400 on the Ferarri.
I've driven the 400, 365, 308, 328, and one of the modern Ferarris.

[pwd72s]

Gads! I'd forgotten about the Chrysler K cars...they're as "rare" as the Chevy Citations. For pretty much the same reasons.

[Nickshu]

I restored this clunker...and probably have more tied up in it than a lot of "classics". About 1 million Corvairs were built. Not sure how many remain.

[wdfifteen]

^^
Nice! You gotta love those early Corvairs.

[Borders Reivers]

ASA 1000 GT - Ferrari designed, Bertone built. Almost bought one on a used car lot in Garland TX in 1968.

[cashflyer]

Originally Posted by speeder

And what is the point of this scholarly thread? That car companies made different models from economy cars to high performance models?

I thought the point was that the OP wanted to know if Ferrari ever built a turd.

Originally Posted by pwd72s

We all know that most car makers have made cars that are now sought after collectables. But these same makers also made cars nobody wanted. ... So, not having really followed the Ferrari thing, did they ever make a similar POC car?

[ckelly78z]

Hows about the 1970 390 AMC Javelin, compared to the 1975 100 HP V6 AMC Pacer wagon (with rook rack, and wood stickers on the side).

[Nickshu]

Originally Posted by cashflyer

I thought the point was that the OP wanted to know if Ferrari ever built a turd.

One might argue some of the Dino line was Ferrari's turd.

[vash]

first post was a dropped ball.

if you're gonna compare "vettes"

i would go with the corvette and the cheVETTE. that tiny car was the TURD champion. leave the vega out of it..at least you can hotrod a vega.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by cashflyer

I thought the point was that the OP wanted to know if Ferrari ever built a turd.

They built quite a few turds. If you look at their production from the 1950s and 1960s, there were a number of cars that were considered too ugly to own. At least until everything with a V12 was deemed to be collectible... 30 or 40 years ago, you couldn't give some of them away, and many got cut up to be donors for various fake Ferraris.

Moving forward, the Dino never got much respect in its day, but they don't drive all that badly. At least the ones with a roof on them...

Speaking of roofs, the 308 GTS models drove like ****. A GTB was OK but cut the roof off and it turned into a complete turd, even when new. The worst of those were the two valve injected models. They were so lacking in power my mother's station wagon cut out-drag one. Ditto for the equivalent Mondial, which was the same ****ty idea with two more seats and a few hundred more pounds.

Moving on to the modern era, Ferrari didn't build a complete turd so much as they had cars with really ****ing bad idea as built into them. In the 80s you had electrical systems in the Testarossa and 348 that were subpar. The 348 had a terrible interior, the 355 had all sorts of engine problems and more interior problems. The 456 had windows that were beyond problematic. I could continue, but you get the point.

[javadog]

Some of the most valuable Ferraris are the one-off's. Ferrari might build a basic car, however limited in production it might be, then examples got re-bodied by some of the styling houses of the day. Here's an example of the 410 Super America, rebodied by Ghia.

How would you like to be one of the idiots that has owned this turd in it's history?

[daepp]

Originally Posted by MMARSH

1,642,587 Chevy Citations were manufactured during its production run, but I don't think there's a big market for those these days...funny when was the last time you even saw one on the road. I think all 1.6 million of them have rusted to death...

A great many of our old American cars end up as DD's south of the border.

[sammyg2]

Drumroll please .................................................. .......

gentlemen: I present to you. ...... the Cadillac Cimarron!

It may not the biggest POS in history, but it was certainly one of the most over-priced.

[asphaltgambler]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

A running, rust-free Vega might be as rare as an unmolested 427 'Vette.

No doubt as rust was standard equipment on the Vega, not an option.................

[javadog]

Here's another complete turd that was owned for about 30 years by a guy I know here in Tulsa. Believe it or not, this started out as a very desirable short wheelbase California Spider, then Luigi Chinetti himself sent it to Zagato to completely redo the coach work and interior.

[Otter74]

Originally Posted by vash

i would go with the corvette and the cheVETTE. that tiny car was the TURD champion. leave the vega out of it..at least you can hotrod a vega.

Nope, can't hot rod Chevettes at all!

[sammyg2]

[vash]

here is another:

early Bronco VS BroncoII..

haha..the B-II was a total turd!!

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Drumroll please .................................................. .......

gentlemen: I present to you. ...... the Cadillac Cimarron!

It may not the biggest POS in history, but it was certainly one of the most over-priced.

Winner Sammy. Brand new they were simply FUGLY. Built in an era when Detroit couldn't figure out why those foreign cars were kicking their ass. Desirable Caddy?
In my high school years, one of the rich kids brought a '57 El Dorado to school...I thought it was something else. His dad was a GM trouble shooter executive type, so had the connections to get one.