I see it, but not enough to bother me. There's a guy in my golf club who puts the service dog vest on his fox terrier and brings him golfing. A lot of the guy bit@h and moan about him. Heck, I'd love to bring Tank golfing with me. The terrier chases rabbits, runs along with the cart, and has a blast. The guy says he's going through a nasty divorce and the dog gives him emotional support. Serious or not, who cares. The dog isn't hurting anybody.

Yeah, just how a real service dog behaves.:rolleyes:

Who wouldn't want to have their dog with them as much as possible? Does that make the fake vests ok? I guess the rules don't apply to anyone. So why have them?

I've noticed a lot of businesses here in town putting signs in their windows stating that only legit guide dogs are allowed inside. The fake service dog crap has really gotten out of control in recent years.

As bad as it is, it pales in comparison to the fake handicapped parking pass problem. Every new exotic car you see in L.A. has one hanging from the rear view mirror when parked. 991 turbos, Lambos, Ferraris, you name it. It's like an additional sign that says, "yes, I am in fact a douchebag w deep sexual inadequacy issues." :rolleyes:

I was in traffic court a few years ago and the case before mine was an elderly man, who was fighting a ticket for handing a cop a bogus handicapped permit. It was really stupid. The man clearly could have gotten a real one, parked without any, and then came back while cop was writing ticket. He protested and produced a fake permit from his glovebox, said he had forgotten to display it. Cop ran the number on the permit and it was from someone else and long expired. Judge wanted to let him off, but said she had to fine him $250 for lying to a cop.

I saw a handicapped permit in a Ferrari 355 at the local indoor shooting range a few years ago. What handicap allows you to get in and out of one of those and carry your shooting rig to the range?

Sure, they're gaming the system, but does the dog really affect you? In most of Europe, people can bring dogs into restaurants, bars, movies, anywhere. "They don't need no stinking badges"...Ah, I mean "service vests".

I'm tempted to ask one of those guys what their handicap is, other than being a punk. :rolleyes:

Yes, I was just in Europe last week. The difference there is that it's not banned in most places and thus people are not lying or committing fraud with the fake vests. Again, I'm a dog lover and don't mind having them around in most places. But in the US it's a sense of entitlement and the rules don't apply to me. It's fraud and it intimidates business owners into keeping quiet when their quite legal and reasonable requests are ignored. And these fake service dogs probably make things a little more difficult for those who really need real service dogs. Pretty sure there will be an incident one of these days that gets the law involved and ruins the party for these folks.

Rick, you must live a very charmed life if this is an issue that appears serious enough to bother you so much. :rolleyes: Heck, people scamming the service dog vest rates right up there with Wall Street Ponzi schemes and North Korean nukes.

I really don't consider having to avoid a huge pile of dog schit in an airport a small matter. Everyone knows real service dogs don't do this stuff. Furthermore, I get a little annoyed by yapping "service" dogs on a flight. I'm not a heavy traveler, maybe 20-30 flights a year, but I see this on a very frequent basis. Yeah, there are bigger problems out there, but this is a thread about fake service dogs, not world peace or curing terminal disease.

Can't answer for him but even though it isn't of earth shattering importance, when you see it every day it's fking annoying. :)

Have a 2 year old Golden I am training myself to be my service dog. There are no tests the dog or handler can take to make it a "certified" service dog. I can understand since it is already relatively expensive to get a trained service dog.

I got a MRSA infection (penicilin resistant) in my blood from stepping on a nail. For 14 days they told me to get my affairs in order. The medication they found to finally stop the infection combined with the infection itself really messed me up. Was fine before, now am full diabetic with several of the complications that come with diabetes including IBS that I get very little if any notification of when I gotta go.

My dog is already trained to help me with the IBS. She lets me know I gotta go before I know I gotta go. She even wakes me up at night with enough time for me to make it to the facilities. Unless you have this problem you just don't know how much help that is.

I have found a trainer that is a recognized Diabetic Alert Dog trainer that I can train my dog to alert me when my blood sugar is either high or low to take the necessary steps. A trained Diabetic Alert Dog costs about $30K.

I have only taken one vacation trip in the last 4 years because of the IBS episodes. It was so embarrassing it was NOT a vacation at all. In fact haven't gone any farther than across town. Really looking forward to being able to go places again. Guarantee any hassles I have because of well trained service dog are going to be much less than the embarrassment I experienced on that trip. It's one thing to have a hotel charge you more because you have a dog, quite another that they charge you more because they had to clean the room because of you and while you were still staying there no less.

A lab mix eh ? Probably a meth lab. You don't want them anywhere near where you live.

True service dogs can be life savers. I do not have a crystal ball, so I am prepared to tolerate dogs, as long as they are well behaved. Anger and resentment are fine bedfellows for some, but for me they are luxuries that I just can't afford.

LOL...I think I just snorted too :)

If we limit PPOT to serious issues, all we'll have is cratch slappin' and the occasional painted hootus.

LMAO.

Yes, this is quickly becoming epidemic in a monkey see, monkey do sort of way (just like the morons who have turned center LEFT TURN deceleration lanes into acceleration/merging/waiting lanes :rolleyes: ). So just today, I park at a shopping center. The furthest parking spot from the door as i usually do. A guy pulls in across and out jumps a French poodle with the full 'do'. The guy puts some sort of sketchy looking vest on it and makes the long trek to the store? Obviously, the guy isn't handicapped (unless walking around with a French poodle is a HC in itself ...) or he would have taken a HC spot up close. I dunno, maybe it was legit? :rolleyes:

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Well, look what just went up on both doors at the local Albertson's.

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This sign was not there yesterday. I've seen plenty of fake service dogs in this store. I'm guessing it's finally caused an incident or made its way to mgt. I hope they enforce this and more businesses do this too.

Poodles, not to go too much off topic.. But. A month or two ago a pitbull really had it in for a poodle on the beach and was chasing it like it was going for a kill. The poodle would snap a 180 degree turn and back the other way. After about two minutes of this the pitbull was really hitting the wall and had slowed right down. The poodle turned on him and absolutely mauled the pitbull, had him around the throat shaking him etc. LOL, the injustice of it, the pitbull moron owner ran over and beatup the pitbull and the poodle owner made it sit while she waved her finger at it.

I raised a seeing eye dog for the seeing eye. Dog then went to a blind girl in her first year of college. The service dog thing seems like something different but I guess if people feel the need to game the system, they have to live with themselves. I do hope it doesn't end up making it harder for the troubled people who it was origionally developed. People like vets and such who deserve all the support that is available.

What really "chaps my hide" is people faking military service & trying to take advantage of the support system in place for veterans.

It's way more common than you may think.

Wow, the ultimate humiliation for a pit bull owner! :cool: