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fintstone 01-03-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 9870987)
Don't go lumping synthetics in here. They are not part of the conversation.

They are not legal in CA like CO?

fintstone 01-03-2018 11:16 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/53644-marijuana-is-stronger-now-than-20-years-ago.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/21/health/colorado-marijuana-potency-above-national-average/index.html

Sooner or later 01-03-2018 11:16 AM

Are synthetics legal in Colo? If they are, why?

fintstone 01-03-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 9870997)
Are synthetics legal in Colo? If they are, why?

Actually, I meant/was thinking about edibles...not really able to concentrate on my posts...sorry.

stomachmonkey 01-03-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9870963)
Driving under the influence, btw, needs to include pot. We are not there yet in terms of testing, but we need to be.

We don't need testing, we have trained certified guessing.

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Sooner or later 01-03-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9871011)
Actually, I meant/was thinking about edibles...not really able to concentrate on my posts...sorry.

I was given a red sucker a couple of years ago. Out of Colo. It didn't do squat. I got sweaty

Quite the letdown.

Tobra 01-03-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9869486)
I don't really have a stance on this... ...but curious for those opposed and for:

1. If employers test for MJ because of heavy equipment operation, etc.. ...should they also test for sobriety (booze)?

2. Since MJ can remain detectable in your system for weeks - is the test really valid for performance and reliability at work?

1.They do
2.Immaterial, driven by liability insurance requirements.
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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9869592)
Legitimate question, from a medical standpoint is there a defined threshold to test for "under the influence" of marijuana vs simply finding trace of its use?

Not to my knowledge. This is a HUGE issue. There needed to be an objective test to see if someone is currently impaired, rather than had used in the last month, prior to making it legal. See Colorado for impact on MVA injuries/fatalities
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Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 9870800)
Odorless until used? Please stop talking. You have zero credibility.

What, you never heard of a ziplock bag? Yes, it will contain aroma, I understand they dispense it in packaging designed for this very purpose.

gordner 01-03-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9870823)
LOL. No, I think you are showing your lack of knowledge. Try buying some (or selling) off marijuana craigslist in most communities (where it is illegal) per the state/city.


This is where it would be nice if you were as smart as you think you are. Do you think I am posting that on a guess, or experience? I assume since you "know" it doesn't work like that, you have tried?

Every city. Every state. No issue I guarantee

gordner 01-03-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9870839)
It did when I was a teen...maybe your nose is just more sensitized to the odor than mine.

So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

gordner 01-03-2018 12:44 PM

Todays weed is much more potent for sure, and I don't know about down south, but weed around here is sure detectable bagged or not. It passes through ziplock almost unimpeded.
Fint, do you believe government should only intervene where required? Make laws that are necessary and in the public interest?
You continually claim there is no relation between MJ and alcohol. One is the only legal non prescription drug of any popularity in both your country and mine currently. The other is on the edge of becoming the next legal drug for use. You don't see any correlation there?
Outside of this MJ argument Fint, would you like to see alcohol outlawed in the way MJ currently is? If not, why not, since alcohol is a more serious drug in every meaningful way?

Khal 01-03-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 9871091)
So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

He's lying thru this teeth in this entire thread. He has never been to a party where people were drinking beer and smoking weed. He is too square and boring to ever get invited anywhere like that. If he was anywhere near that activity he'd leave and call the cops and say there is illegal activity going on to get them busted.

He brags that he has ruined careers of Air Force members because they had a single can of beer. No way he'd be around weed without snitching on them.

gordner 01-03-2018 12:47 PM

Also Fint, synthetic MJ remains illegal as far as I know. That stuff has so little to do with MJ it is shocking it is called a synthetic of it.

Sooner or later 01-03-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 9871083)
1.They do
2.Immaterial, driven by liability insurance requirements.


Not to my knowledge. This is a HUGE issue. There needed to be an objective test to see if someone is currently impaired, rather than had used in the last month, prior to making it legal. See Colorado for impact on MVA injuries/fatalities

What, you never heard of a ziplock bag? Yes, it will contain aroma, I understand they dispense it in packaging designed for this very purpose.


That zip lock doesn't help much. You would be amazed at how much you can smell even when zip locked.

Khal 01-03-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 9871098)
Also Fint, synthetic MJ remains illegal as far as I know. That stuff has so little to do with MJ it is shocking it is called a synthetic of it.

It also somewhat new so Fint is either around druggies recently or he is lying about being around druggies.:D

Ayles 01-03-2018 01:11 PM

Anyone who believes a bag will stop the smell has nostrils full of BS.

Tobra 01-03-2018 02:08 PM

As I say, there has been packaging developed for this very reason. All bags are not created equal.

fintstone 01-03-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 9871091)
So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

Lots of folks carried a bag in their pocket at at school and you could not tell from their smell. Obviously, if a normal version could smell it through a sealed bag, they would have been busted. Yes, potency has increased significantly according to testing. Apparently those lost 5 IQ points are costing you here...much as Ayles has demonstrated.

fintstone 01-03-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 9871093)
Todays weed is much more potent for sure, and I don't know about down south, but weed around here is sure detectable bagged or not. It passes through ziplock almost unimpeded.
Fint, do you believe government should only intervene where required? Make laws that are necessary and in the public interest?
You continually claim there is no relation between MJ and alcohol. One is the only legal non prescription drug of any popularity in both your country and mine currently. The other is on the edge of becoming the next legal drug for use. You don't see any correlation there?
Outside of this MJ argument Fint, would you like to see alcohol outlawed in the way MJ currently is? If not, why not, since alcohol is a more serious drug in every meaningful way?

Yes. There is nothing about alcohol that makes legalizing marijuana a better idea. They are totally unrelated. If you would prefer to discuss making other things illegal, it seems that should be a different thread entirely.

fintstone 01-03-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Khal (Post 9871094)
He's lying thru this teeth in this entire thread. He has never been to a party where people were drinking beer and smoking weed. He is too square and boring to ever get invited anywhere like that. If he was anywhere near that activity he'd leave and call the cops and say there is illegal activity going on to get them busted.

He brags that he has ruined careers of Air Force members because they had a single can of beer. No way he'd be around weed without snitching on them.

Did I say that I went to any sort of party? Of course I did not. I will say that I was very popular in school...but most thought I was a bit wild compared to peers.

Of course I enforced the lawful orders of my superiors when I was in the Air Force. I swore an oath to do so. Of course, you would not understand about service or keeping your word/honor.

You do realize that the drinking age was 18 when I came into the service...and did not change until I was an E6...almost E7. Only a fool would party with underage subordinates...or minors with a senior NCO charged with enforcing the law.

fintstone 01-03-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Khal (Post 9871111)
It also somewhat new so Fint is either around druggies recently or he is lying about being around druggies.:D

Unlike you, I can read.


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