What good is legalizing weed if you can't use it?

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Are synthetics legal in Colo? If they are, why?

Actually, I meant/was thinking about edibles...not really able to concentrate on my posts...sorry.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Driving under the influence, btw, needs to include pot. We are not there yet in terms of testing, but we need to be.

We don't need testing, we have trained certified guessing.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by fintstone

Actually, I meant/was thinking about edibles...not really able to concentrate on my posts...sorry.

I was given a red sucker a couple of years ago. Out of Colo. It didn't do squat. I got sweaty

Quite the letdown.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by cstreit

I don't really have a stance on this... ...but curious for those opposed and for:

1. If employers test for MJ because of heavy equipment operation, etc.. ...should they also test for sobriety (booze)?

2. Since MJ can remain detectable in your system for weeks - is the test really valid for performance and reliability at work?

1.They do
2.Immaterial, driven by liability insurance requirements.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Legitimate question, from a medical standpoint is there a defined threshold to test for "under the influence" of marijuana vs simply finding trace of its use?

Not to my knowledge. This is a HUGE issue. There needed to be an objective test to see if someone is currently impaired, rather than had used in the last month, prior to making it legal. See Colorado for impact on MVA injuries/fatalities

Originally Posted by Ayles

Odorless until used? Please stop talking. You have zero credibility.

What, you never heard of a ziplock bag? Yes, it will contain aroma, I understand they dispense it in packaging designed for this very purpose.

[gordner]

Originally Posted by fintstone

LOL. No, I think you are showing your lack of knowledge. Try buying some (or selling) off marijuana craigslist in most communities (where it is illegal) per the state/city.

This is where it would be nice if you were as smart as you think you are. Do you think I am posting that on a guess, or experience? I assume since you "know" it doesn't work like that, you have tried?

Every city. Every state. No issue I guarantee

[gordner]

Originally Posted by fintstone

It did when I was a teen...maybe your nose is just more sensitized to the odor than mine.

So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

[gordner]

Todays weed is much more potent for sure, and I don't know about down south, but weed around here is sure detectable bagged or not. It passes through ziplock almost unimpeded.
Fint, do you believe government should only intervene where required? Make laws that are necessary and in the public interest?
You continually claim there is no relation between MJ and alcohol. One is the only legal non prescription drug of any popularity in both your country and mine currently. The other is on the edge of becoming the next legal drug for use. You don't see any correlation there?
Outside of this MJ argument Fint, would you like to see alcohol outlawed in the way MJ currently is? If not, why not, since alcohol is a more serious drug in every meaningful way?

[Khal]

Originally Posted by gordner

So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

He's lying thru this teeth in this entire thread. He has never been to a party where people were drinking beer and smoking weed. He is too square and boring to ever get invited anywhere like that. If he was anywhere near that activity he'd leave and call the cops and say there is illegal activity going on to get them busted.

He brags that he has ruined careers of Air Force members because they had a single can of beer. No way he'd be around weed without snitching on them.

[gordner]

Also Fint, synthetic MJ remains illegal as far as I know. That stuff has so little to do with MJ it is shocking it is called a synthetic of it.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Tobra

1.They do
2.Immaterial, driven by liability insurance requirements.


Not to my knowledge. This is a HUGE issue. There needed to be an objective test to see if someone is currently impaired, rather than had used in the last month, prior to making it legal. See Colorado for impact on MVA injuries/fatalities

What, you never heard of a ziplock bag? Yes, it will contain aroma, I understand they dispense it in packaging designed for this very purpose.

That zip lock doesn't help much. You would be amazed at how much you can smell even when zip locked.

[Khal]

Originally Posted by gordner

Also Fint, synthetic MJ remains illegal as far as I know. That stuff has so little to do with MJ it is shocking it is called a synthetic of it.

It also somewhat new so Fint is either around druggies recently or he is lying about being around druggies.

[Ayles]

Anyone who believes a bag will stop the smell has nostrils full of BS.

[Tobra]

As I say, there has been packaging developed for this very reason. All bags are not created equal.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by gordner

So the smell when you were a teen remains accurate, but the potency has increased exponentially? Maybe you cannot smell it cause your head is too far up your own ass.

Lots of folks carried a bag in their pocket at at school and you could not tell from their smell. Obviously, if a normal version could smell it through a sealed bag, they would have been busted. Yes, potency has increased significantly according to testing. Apparently those lost 5 IQ points are costing you here...much as Ayles has demonstrated.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by gordner

Todays weed is much more potent for sure, and I don't know about down south, but weed around here is sure detectable bagged or not. It passes through ziplock almost unimpeded.
Fint, do you believe government should only intervene where required? Make laws that are necessary and in the public interest?
You continually claim there is no relation between MJ and alcohol. One is the only legal non prescription drug of any popularity in both your country and mine currently. The other is on the edge of becoming the next legal drug for use. You don't see any correlation there?
Outside of this MJ argument Fint, would you like to see alcohol outlawed in the way MJ currently is? If not, why not, since alcohol is a more serious drug in every meaningful way?

Yes. There is nothing about alcohol that makes legalizing marijuana a better idea. They are totally unrelated. If you would prefer to discuss making other things illegal, it seems that should be a different thread entirely.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Khal

He's lying thru this teeth in this entire thread. He has never been to a party where people were drinking beer and smoking weed. He is too square and boring to ever get invited anywhere like that. If he was anywhere near that activity he'd leave and call the cops and say there is illegal activity going on to get them busted.

He brags that he has ruined careers of Air Force members because they had a single can of beer. No way he'd be around weed without snitching on them.

Did I say that I went to any sort of party? Of course I did not. I will say that I was very popular in school...but most thought I was a bit wild compared to peers.

Of course I enforced the lawful orders of my superiors when I was in the Air Force. I swore an oath to do so. Of course, you would not understand about service or keeping your word/honor.

You do realize that the drinking age was 18 when I came into the service...and did not change until I was an E6...almost E7. Only a fool would party with underage subordinates...or minors with a senior NCO charged with enforcing the law.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Khal

It also somewhat new so Fint is either around druggies recently or he is lying about being around druggies.

Unlike you, I can read.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Ayles

Anyone who believes a bag will stop the smell has nostrils full of BS.

Anyone who believes it will not has likely partaken of a bit too much.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

You should talk to a search dog or two Apparently loose chocolate cake/brownies is the best way to distract them from the bag in your rucksack ...

If humans could sniff drugs as well as dogs can...I imagine they would not use humans with dogs. What do you think? Is it some sort of social welfare, affirmative action employment for canines?

When you talk to search dogs...do they answer?

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by gordner

This is where it would be nice if you were as smart as you think you are. Do you think I am posting that on a guess, or experience? I assume since you "know" it doesn't work like that, you have tried?

Every city. Every state. No issue I guarantee

No. I give up. Why are people openly selling it on Craigslist where it is illegal not busted? Show me how to do so in a city a NC or VA. Maybe I can test your claim.