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flatbutt 01-04-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mark henry (Post 9872211)
dronabinol

aka...thc

Sooner or later 01-04-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 9872289)
Thanks Jeff Sessions for continuing to make your party less relevant. Since a majority of both dems and repubs support legalization this can only hurt the repubs in the long run, maybe event the short term if we are lucky.

The way it is now is a total embarrassment. FDA and DEA finalized their review and said no redeeming value. Schedule 1.

So, what we have:
Fed Reserve says no
Colo says yes
Dea/Fda says no
Justice says yes
VA. says no

What a joke

GH85Carrera 01-04-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 9872365)
The way it is now is a total embarrassment. FDA and DEA finalized their review and said no redeeming value. Schedule 1.

So, what we have:
Fed Reserve says no
Colo says yes
Dea/Fda says no
Justice says yes
VA. says no

What a joke

None of those folks MAKE the law. Only Congress can pass a law and the president has to sign it. Then it is a law. Federal agencies are SUPPOSED to follow the law, and enforce it. That is part of the oath they all take, to uphold and obey the constitution.

We all know in the real world many laws are simply ignored or not enforced. But those agencies can't make a new law. The can change their policy, but only if it is within the current law.

Bob Kontak 01-04-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 9869456)
Why ? Anyone here really believe that a friday night joint will impair someone on monday anymore than knocking down a few beers on friday night ? There's a high level of hypocrisy at work here... at least no degree of legality or punishment

I ask why would someone be so farking dense to smoke MJ when they know how long it stays in their system while being aware of their work policy?

Choose a better vice.

Ain't saying that the Friday night joint is a bad thing. It is what it is. It lingers.

fintstone 01-04-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9872341)
or doesn't.

If they believe they are King and the Constitution is toilet paper. You Brits sure seem to believe in Monarchy.

john70t 01-04-2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9872345)
aka...thc

I've read there are strains without much THC, and they are high in beneficial and non-psychoactive CBDs.

Seriously though from a scientific/medicinal perspective:
If you have the ability to prescribe a potentially inexpensive affordable drug which works better than anything else available, and does not have any extremely-toxic side effects, and provides real benefits to a patient...why would this ever become a question?

greglepore 01-04-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9872711)
I've read there are strains without much THC, and they are high in beneficial and non-psychoactive CBDs.

Seriously though from a scientific/medicinal perspective:
If you have the ability to prescribe a potentially inexpensive affordable drug which works better than anything else available, and does not have any extremely-toxic side effects, and provides real benefits to a patient...why would this ever become a question?

Big pharma

fintstone 01-04-2018 04:18 PM

There is little evidence that works better than anything else...and it certainly does not include recreational use...which in reality is where most medical marijuana is used.

jwasbury 01-04-2018 04:18 PM

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john70t 01-04-2018 04:30 PM

So Fint:
Older glaucoma patients. Never smoked cigarettes or drank in their lives.
They try MJ find it works and choose it for their medicine.
Their choice alone.

Are these people instant drug addicts from injecting the dangerous marijuannas?
Or are they reliable statistics and witnesses to be considered during drug efficacy testing trials?

fastfredracing 01-04-2018 04:34 PM

My neighbor is fighting cancer. When he is getting chemo, he says that pot is the only thing that makes him feel good, and want to eat.

jwasbury 01-04-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 9872748)
My neighbor is fighting cancer. When he is getting chemo, he says that pot is the only thing that makes him feel good, and want to eat.

^that's a common sentiment.

also very effective and helpful for people with MS

fintstone 01-04-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9872744)
So Fint:
Older glaucoma patients. Never smoked cigarettes or drank in their lives.
They try MJ find it works and choose it for their medicine.
Their choice alone.

Are these people instant drug addicts from injecting the dangerous marijuannas?
Or are they reliable statistics and witnesses to be considered during drug efficacy testing trials?

Most Ophthalmologists would tell you that MJ is not an appropriate treatment.

https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/medical-marijuana-glaucoma-treament

https://www.glaucoma.org/treatment/should-you-be-smoking-marijuana-to-treat-your-glaucoma-1.php

john70t 01-04-2018 04:51 PM

I read it. Thank you. Actually that first study concluded that patients should smoke a lot of it if needed.

"The research found that when marijuana is smoked or when a form of its active ingredient is taken as a pill or by injection, it does lower IOP. However, it only lowers IOP for a short period of time—about three or four hours.

This short period of time is a major drawback for the use of marijuana as a glaucoma treatment. Because glaucoma needs to be treated 24 hours a day, you would need to smoke marijuana six to eight times a day around the clock to receive the benefit of a consistently lowered IOP.
"

fastfredracing 01-04-2018 04:53 PM

Fint, why are you so against mj? Just curious.

fintstone 01-04-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 9872777)
Fint, why are you so against mj? Just curious.

Because most folks who use it are mislead about the effects from a vey young age...and now, massive amounts of money are being sent to blanket the media, internet, etc. with advocacy (essentially commercials for the drug) so they can profit on the young, poor, and stupid. Most folks have enough trouble navigating life sober. More recreational drugs are the last thing this country needs.

fastfredracing 01-04-2018 05:22 PM

Got it. I have to agree with you to some extent.

Sooner or later 01-04-2018 05:23 PM

Most people.

Does that mean everyone but you?

john70t 01-04-2018 05:26 PM

If you're talking about kids, you first tell them not to do something benine, popular, proven and without any obvious consequence.
Use hyperbole and hysteria. Amp it up. Yer gonna burn in hades kid!
Remind them all again and again.

Then the first time you are gone they will do it .


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