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Is this enough salt?

This is just irresponsible, IMO. This is an asphalt surface, not concrete! Cars are actually kicking up salt dust clouds.






Guidelines for Massachusetts say 240 lbs per lane mile so for two lane blacktop that's 480 lbs per mile. Seems like a lot.

https://www.massdot.state.ma.us/highway/Departments/SnowIce/WinterRoadTreatmentSnowRemoval/MaterialApplicationGuidelines.aspx

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Somebody's brother in law owners the salt contract.
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They do the same here in MI
Years back, they would just salt/sand the intersections and sharper curves...now they salt/sand the entire road.
Drivers feel they need to have summer traction year round. What happened to being responsible for your driving?
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Same problem here. I think the PA regulations are 2 inches of salt per inch of predicted snowfall.
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If you don’t use the amount you requested for the year, you don’t get to ask for more money next year. Government!
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It's nowhere near as bad here as you guys on the east coast have it. We are always trying to conserve it for 'the next big storm'. In fact, most people around here ***** about the road crews not using enough salt. Then again we don't have contracts to make sure a certain amount of salt must be used every snowfall or every year...
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If you don’t use the amount you requested for the year, you don’t get to ask for more money next year. Government!
To be fair, this mentality is very common even outside of government
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Ahaha! That's nothing.

In the Chicago region there will literally be piles of it on the road. 3" high mountains of salt sitting in the intersections...
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Find the fastest car you can then go out and try to set a new land speed record. When you get pulled over just say you thought you were on the salt flats.
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Depends on the temperature. Right now our blacktop roads have been almost totally snow covered.
Hasn't been warm enough since before Christmas to use salt. Just got a 23 ton load today hopefully another one tomorrow.
Supposed to get up to +18* tomorrow so may put some out then.
20* and above works best.
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That's ridiculous ...
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Then, In a few weeks, the town/county will complain that they exhausted their salt budget for the year....

Typical NJ.

We've had 2 minor snow dustings down here so far . Ive never seen so much salt put down. Total waste.



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It was the same in Ontario when I was growing up... horrible stuff, road salt. I remember seeing salt spreader trucks idling at red lights with their salt slingers still running... you'd get little mountains of salt at every intersection where they'd had to stop... ridiculous.

I always wondered that since you can get reimbursed by the city for damage caused to your vehicle by pot holes and other road hazards, why shouldn't you be able to go after them for rust damage to your car from all of the excessive salt that they lay down? I hate rusty cars.
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Depends on the temperature. Right now our blacktop roads have been almost totally snow covered.
Hasn't been warm enough since before Christmas to use salt. Just got a 23 ton load today hopefully another one tomorrow.
Supposed to get up to +18* tomorrow so may put some out then.
20* and above works best.
I lived in Claremont NH one winter, we didn't see blacktop for many weeks.
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That's normal up here, we're probably using salt from 2 years ago. We hardly had any snow in the past 2 years.
In Toronto the city puts down a brine solution on the main streets and local highways before the snow starts falling. Once the snow starts falling the salt trucks come out.
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They put the brine down here also. It does a good job.

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