What good is making **** illegal, if you can't enforce it?

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

Because use of asterisks can lead to use of pound signs.

...if you wanna ####....imo there is a good chance you wanted ****, and drank milk as a kid too. Still unenforcable.....see

[scottmandue]

And we all know that asterisk users are lazy, unemployable, and a drain on society.

[crb07]

I would like to see the fed gov keep pot illegal except when a real doctor prescribes. My issues with pot are more people are going to smoke and drive and we will eventually see some kind of class action law suit like tobacco. The tax payer will foot the bill one way or another. Pot sold today is not what people were smoking 40 years ago. This is not going to have a happy ending.
I don't see the fed enforcing but who knows.
Also betting we are in PARF before page 3.
All the asterisks I have known are very peaceful and loving.

[fintstone]

The sides usually form on an issue/crime based on those that have committed (or wanted to commit) the illegal act and those that did not (and were likely horrified by it). If you have never killed anyone...it seems terrible, but a lot of folks who have really done so did not find it to be all that bad...until caught. Similarly with guys who had sex with a teen (or a young intern). If you did it yourself...or wanted to...it is pretty easy to convince yourself that it is harmless.

[widebody911]

To answer the original question: selective enforcement. For instance, front license plates: 99.9% of cars that don't have them skate by, but if you have the misfortune of driving while being of the incorrect shade of skin, it's "probable cause" to pull you over.

[RKDinOKC]

Making **** illegal and not being able to enforce it makes the **** nannies feel better because they are "doing something" about ****.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by KC911

I intentionally used **** instead of weed or guns in the title...could apply to anything imo...

soap

[JackDidley]

###****!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have just committed a felony.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by widebody911

To answer the original question: selective enforcement. For instance, front license plates: 99.9% of cars that don't have them skate by, but if you have the misfortune of driving while being of the incorrect shade of skin, it's "probable cause" to pull you over.

LOL. Sure, that is why.

[RKDinOKC]

A **** a day keeps the **** away.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by JackDidley

###****!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have just committed a felony.

Could be a misdemeanor, illegal doesn't always have to be a felony.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by JackDidley

###****!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have just committed a felony.

Nope...you just get a minor ticket...

Now if you had typed ####, instead of ###, you'd be domed . Of course, big pharma types ######## and literally hundreds will die today because of it. Makes sense to me, and it has just worked out splendidly over my lifetime...or not...

[DanielDudley]

I try to support small Pharmas. I always try to buy locally in season.

[JackDidley]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Could be a misdemeanor, illegal doesn't always have to be a felony.

Thank goodness. I dont think I could handle doing hard time in the big house.

Originally Posted by KC911

Nope...you just get a minor ticket...

Now if you had typed ####, instead of ###, you'd be domed . Of course, big pharma types ######## and literally hundreds will die today because of it. Makes sense to me, and it has just worked out splendidly over my lifetime...or not...

The hashtag cops may be coming for us both.

[RSBob]

If you want ******** enforced and it isn’t, then its probably a matter of manpower. Unfortunately manpower has to be paid for and no one wants to pay, so ******* is not enforced. Pretty simple.

I would love for all tax cheats to be busted and made to pay what they owe plus penalties. But that would require more IRS agents to be hired. Even though an IRS agent can more than pay for their salary and benefits on busting cheats, a decision was made to reduce the agency’s size thus reducing collections from cheaters. So here is a situation where ****** used to be enforced, but the very government drowning in red ink has chosen not to. Can’t make this **** up.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by RSBob

If you want ******** enforced and it isn’t, then its probably a matter of manpower. Unfortunately manpower has to be paid for and no one wants to pay, so ******* is not enforced. Pretty simple.

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Let's just assume this thread was about drugs...it isn't. My county has a "cash kitty" of over 1 million bucks from seizures....they can only use it to buy "toys"...

Bottom line...what we've been doing for almost 50 years is another failed prohibition just like alcohol was...then you have fint telling us that both were successful .

You simply can't enforce some laws...human nature...not when literally tens of millions of citizens just ignore them.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by KC911

Let's just assume this thread was about drugs...it isn't. My county has a "cash kitty" of over 1 million bucks from seizures....they can only use it to buy "toys"...

Bottom line...what we've been doing for almost 50 years is another failed prohibition just like alcohol was...then you have fint telling us that both were successful .

You simply can't enforce some laws...human nature...not when literally tens of millions of citizens just ignore them.

Prohibition (alcohol) was very successful if you consider reducing alcohol consumption was the goal (which I assume most would). What is your metric?

No doubt, making dangerous drugs illegal has also kept use down (based on the huge expansions of use/industry where it has been made "legal") as compared to keeping it legal. In both cases, big business has pushed legalization for one reason alone (profit)...and pushed misinformation that neither was harmful and that prohibition of neither worked.

[cairns]

Bottom line...what we've been doing for almost 50 years is another failed prohibition just like alcohol was...then you have fint telling us that both were successful .

You simply can't enforce some laws...human nature...not when literally tens of millions of citizens just ignore them.

Perfect summary thanks.

[fintstone]

Obviously if making it legal does not increase consumption...it is essentially already legal. Of course it does. Lots of folks who never tried MJ are trying it in CO. It is just like speeding. How many folks never drive over 90 mph...who would do it daily if the speed limit was rescinded.

[fintstone]

More pregnant women are using pot, study finds
By Jacqueline Howard, CNN

More pregnant women seem to be using pot -- sometimes to ease the nausea of morning sickness or heightened anxiety -- and a new study suggests that this slight rise in marijuana use is most pronounced among those younger in age.

The prevalence of marijuana use among a sample of moms-to-be in California climbed from 4.2% to 7.1% from 2009 through 2016, according to a research letter published in the journal JAMA on Tuesday.
Among pregnant teens younger than 18, marijuana use climbed from 12.5% to 21.8%, and among women 18 to 24, marijuana use climbed from 9.8% to 19%, the researchers found.
That research involved only certain women in California, but a separate study of pregnant women across the United States, published in JAMA in January, found that those who reported using marijuana in the previous month grew from 2.37% in 2002 to 3.85% in 2014. The women were 18 to 44.

Doctors caution that the health effects of marijuana on a fetus remain unclear but could include low birth weight and developmental problems, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Many of the chemicals in marijuana, like tetrahydrocannabinol, known as THC, could pass through a mother's system to her baby.
The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists recommends that "women who are pregnant or contemplating pregnancy should be encouraged to discontinue marijuana use" and "to discontinue use of marijuana for medicinal purposes in favor of an alternative therapy."
Additionally, "there are insufficient data to evaluate the effects of marijuana use on infants during lactation and breastfeeding, and in the absence of such data, marijuana use is discouraged," according to the recommendations.

Why more pregnant women are using weed

The new research involved 279,457 mothers-to-be, 12 and older, who were in the Kaiser Permanente Northern California health care system. The study participants completed questionnaires about their marijuana use and took a cannabis toxicology test during their standard prenatal care visits from 2009 through 2016. The women were screened for marijuana use at approximately eight weeks' gestation.
The researchers found that the prevalence of marijuana use, based on self-reports or toxicology results, soared among all age groups, but the biggest rise was among those 24 and younger.
"We were concerned to find that the prevalence of marijuana use in pregnancy is increasing more quickly among younger females, aged 24 and younger, and to see the high prevalence of use in this age group," the study's lead author, Kelly Young-Wolff, licensed clinical psychologist and research scientist at the Kaiser Permanente Northern California Division of Research, wrote in an email.
For other age groups, the researchers found that marijuana use rose from 3.4% to 5.1% among women 25 to 34 and from 2.1% to 3.3% among women older than 34.

Pregnancy in adolescents has been linked to increases in behaviors such as drinking and marijuana use, and pot use could have a disproportionate effect on the increase seen among teens in the study because the adolescent participant group had fewer members than the adult groups.
For instance, moms-to-be younger than 18 years were only 1.4% of the overall sample in the study, but 18 to 24 were 15.8%, 25 to 34 were 61.6%, and older than 34 were 21.2%.
Additionally, "we were unable to distinguish prenatal use before versus after women realized they were pregnant," Young-Wolff wrote.
"Marijuana is detectable in urine approximately 30 days after last use and this varies with heaviness of use and marijuana potency," she said. "it is possible, but unlikely, that some toxicology tests identified prepregnancy use."
The findings also were limited to data on pregnant women within one health care system in a limited geographic area of California.

All in all, "the paper is not surprising, and the findings of a rise in marijuana use during pregnancy is consistent with recent attention to marijuana and legalization in various states," said Dr. Haywood Brown, professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Duke University School of Medicine, who was not involved in the new study.
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