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Taser spoon

I know, I know... it will just piss the bad guy off...
Now that we have said that.
In an emergency not sure my wife could find my 9mm, rack it, flip the safety, point and shoot.
Thus I have been shopping for a revolver.
The other day we are watching TV and a LEO gets laid off from work but continues to follow the serial killer, the killer turns on him and he whips out a taser and zaps the guy.
Wife turns to me and says "Oooo, maybe get one of those for me?".
I dismissed the idea... but curiosity got the better of me and looked them up... cheap ones are around $300 and nicer ones (like the ones the LEO's carry) are around $1000.
Anyone here experimented with one of these?

Just to confirm, just curious not really considering one as an option for self defense.

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Old 03-10-2018, 10:06 AM
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Not until they make one in the forty watt range.
Old 03-10-2018, 10:32 AM
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I dismissed the idea... but curiosity got the better of me and looked them up... cheap ones are around $300 and nicer ones (like the ones the LEO's carry) are around $1000.
Anyone here experimented with one of these?

Just to confirm, just curious not really considering one as an option for self defense.
If you are considering one, I'd stick with the Taser brand sfuff with replaceable cartridges (standard LEO X26, etc.).
They give you the ability to zap someone at distance (+/- 15ft) by firing tethered probes, and/or to zap someone up-close via direct contact.
Just realize that firing the probes has a fairly high rate of ineffectiveness. First you have to be accurate and hit the target with both probes. Then the probes have to actually make contact with the skin.
If someone is wearing a heavy jacket/clothing, it's probably not going to do anything. The location of the hit and the distance between probes also plays a factor in their efficacy.

Anyway, if you are thinking of grabbing one, you can sometimes find used LEO models (PD trade-ins) for $200-$300 and the cartridges are +/- $30.
I wouldn't pay $1k for one, but I also wouldn't bother with most other commercially-available stuff to begin with either. YMMV...
Old 03-10-2018, 11:32 AM
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If'n you are thinking of spending $1k and physical strength is a concern ...

Just get one of these - https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_2108/products_id/415001968/Ruger+GP100+327+FED+Blue+5%5C+Half+Lug

Send it some place to have a DAO conversion done (see Ruger Revolver Gunsmithing - www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com - not a recommendation, just a google result)


327 is a potent little round, out of a medium size service revolver it will have much less recoil that good 38+p in the same gun. The DAO trigger job should make the trigger a long, slow, smooth, not heavy pull. No safety or slide motion to worry about.

If you think 327 may be much recoil, S&W 617 or similar (8-10 shot 22lr revolver) should be able to have the same stuff done. While it may be tempting, avoid 22wmr (22 magnum) out of a pistol - it is one of the few rounds I'll wear both my normal ear plugs AND a set of muffs to shoot from a hand gun (30 carbine is another)
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If'n you are thinking of spending $1k and physical strength is a concern ...

Just get one of these - https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_2108/products_id/415001968/Ruger+GP100+327+FED+Blue+5%5C+Half+Lug
As I said thinking of a revolver and oddly enough I am flip flopping on a GP100 or S&W 686 loaded with .38 specials.

I don't think it is a matter of physical strength but my wife's reluctance to use deadly force.

But like Eric said I'm very suspicious of the accuracy (presume you only get one shot) and reliability (if the attacker is wearing a thick sweatshirt will it go through?) so I don't think it is a good choice for home defense.

Just kicking around ideas.
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Why is it hard to find the 9mm? Is it in her purse? Wouldn't the Taser also be in her purse?

Also, wouldn't an alternative gun without a separate safety (think Glock) work just as well, if one is left in the chamber?

I mean for $1K...
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I have been in situations where the person was so high and angry that they just ripped the hooks right out and kept on going. But I have also seen people drop like a dead fish when hit, As already said heavy clothing can also be a factor. One time my partner tasered a guy and one of the hooks went in his eye quite a messy situation. With that in mind a lawsuit is always a possibility, The big difference between a taser and a gun is the taser is "non lethal" which means the bad guy can file that lawsuit.
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Tasers are useful for cops because normally there's more than one cop on the scene. If it doesn't work they've got other options.
The dart shooting type may look good but there are too many thing that can go wrong.
The only one I'd recommend for for self defense is the direct contact type. Not ideal but it will work more reliably.

If I lived in the US and I felt my wife needed to carry I'd get her something like this and take her to the range so she knows how to use it.

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Taser doesn't sound good at all for home defense. One shot and a high failure rate.

If your wife won't learn to use a gun, how about a big can of CS spray. Probably better than a Taser.
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In an emergency not sure my wife could find my 9mm, rack it, flip the safety, point and shoot.
A real self-defense gun should not need to be racked and should have no manual safety. You want a one-step bang stick. Keep it chambered and one with no manual safety. Modern handguns cannot fire unless you pull the trigger. Dropping them should be no issue.
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Bear spray...25' hornet spray?

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Why not have a semiauto pistol in cocked and locked? An easier way to rack a semiauto pistol is that the strong hand stays close to your ribs, left hand clamps the slide, right hand pushes the grip forward while the left hand remains in place. Works for AR's too.

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