Southwest - Suck out!

[sammyg2]

The only engines that ever fail like that belong to Southwest airlines.
I flew on a southwest 737 to and from Salt Lake City last month, and I survived

United Airlines Flight 232 was a DC-10, registered as N1819U, that crash-landed at Sioux City, Iowa on July 19, 1989 after suffering catastrophic failure of its tail-mounted engine, which led to the loss of many flight controls. The flight was en route from Stapleton International Airport in Denver, Colorado to O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. Of the 296 passengers and crew on board, 111 died in the accident and 185 survived in total.[note 1] Despite the deaths, the accident is considered a prime example of successful crew resource management due to the large number of survivors and the manner in which the flight crew handled the emergency and landed the airplane without conventional control.

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Quantas

[tevake]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Hawaiian Air

I was on Maui when that convertible plane was still on the Tarmac, after seeing that, I've been very positive about keeping my seat belt on and snug. What a way to go, being sucked out a big opening like that.

Sure feel for the family of the lady that died in this incedent.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by ckcarr

I like the pilot.

Pictured: Hero pilot who safely landed Southwest flight | Daily Mail Online

This one?

[Mahler9th]

Terrifying. Thanks for sharing info on the pilot.

As an aside, one of our Pelican brothers is a pilot for SW and races with our local group. Like her he is a former military pilot. I once asked him what it is like to fly an F15. Even before the words came out I could tell what he was going to say by the look in his eyes.

RIP to the woman who passed away in this accident, and thoughts and prayers for her loved ones and colleagues. And of course thoughts and prayers for the survivors with physical and/or emotional injuries.

[A930Rocket]

I read somewhere that an engine let go on a SW flight a few years ago.

Looked just like todays engine.

[A930Rocket]

[Brian 162]

It happened to a British Airways pilot in 1990. The cockpit window blew out at 17,000 ft. The captain was lucky. A flight attendant grabbed his legs and kept him from being sucked out of the plane. The cause was incorrect windscreen fasteners. The window was just replaced.
I saw this on a tv show called Mayday.

[Gogar]

Terrible scary story! RIP.


That said the statistics for commercial airline safety are pretty great.

[Gogar]

Oh and I’m gong to rethink my “window seat right over the wing” habit. Poor lady.

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Terrible scary story! RIP.


That said the statistics for commercial airline safety are pretty great.

Agreed, I have a better chance of being killed driving to and from the airport than I do flying.

I never hesitate to fly.

[group911@aol.co]

Originally Posted by Jims5543

Agreed, I have a better chance of being killed driving to and from the airport than I do flying.

I never hesitate to fly.

Yep. Nobody since 2009 has died in a commercial incident including commuters.
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/data/Pages/paxfatal.aspx
VS cars in the US. 110 a day in 2017
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/02/16/480956.htm

[RSBob]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Well, I'm not flying them, anytime!



https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Airplane-Makes-Emergency-Landing-at-Philadelphia-International-Airport-480008613.html

Well since the majority of 737s use the same engine, you will need to choose your flights carefully. To make you feel worse, The fan blades which blew apart were inspected on Sunday.

The news says her arms and head were outside the plane. Pretty traumatic way to go.

[group911@aol.co]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Delta P will be around 8psi at 32000 feet (4psia). They keep the plane pressurized to the same as 6000 feet (12psia)

They aren't rated to do 6000 feet.
Reduced Cabin Altitude System

The pressurisation system of all series of 737 ensures that the cabin altitude does not climb above approx 8,000ft in normal operation. However in 2005 the BBJ was certified to operate with a reduced cabin altitude of 6,500ft at 41,000ft (ΔP of 8.99psid above 37,000ft) to increase passenger comfort. The payback for this is a 20% reduction in airframe life cycles, ie from the standard 75,000 down to 60,000 cycles. This is not a problem for a low utilisation business jet but would be unacceptable in airline operation where some aircraft are operating 10 sectors a day.
http://www.b737.org.uk/pressurisation.htm

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

The pressurisation system of all series of 737 ensures that the cabin altitude does not climb above approx 8,000ft in normal operation

Yup, and 8,000 ft is not an arbitrary number, it's what the CFR regs call for.
Basically, for any pressurized A/C there is a requirement that the cabin alt. cannot exceed 8,000 ft, regardless of the plane's service ceiling.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

One thing I am thankful for...that there is nowhere I need or want to be badly enough to board an airplane to get there.

That’s cool if you’re just afraid of flying but if safety is your concern, you could spend the next 400 years on commercial airline flights 365 days a year and the odds would be ridiculous in your favor.

[island911]

^ yeah, risk of cancer goes way up.

Risk of TSA abuse goes way up too.

But yeah, at any given time there are over 10,000 commercial jets in the sky. It's amazing that this type of thing doesn't happen more often.

Anyway, I expect that PWD's not wanting to fly has less to do with fear for his life and more to do with just how bleck it's become.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by RSBob

...The news says her arms and head were outside the plane. Pretty traumatic way to go.

She would have been unconscious instantly... fortunately.