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Shaun @ Tru6 05-11-2018 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10033345)
Considering he's driving a 2009 Cayman, which is about 3,000 lbs, going to a 3,300 lb 996TT isn't a massive increase. Not knocking your Miata suggestion though, I have personally been kicking around the idea of a lightly used ND Miata as a daily driver with a warranty as my wrenching time is pretty scarce these days. Oddly enough, the wife wants me to get a Cayman.

I would disagree with the lookback car comment though. With the wide flared hips, intakes, and different front end, I have always loved the look of the 996TT. To each their own in that department.

One other general response, the comparisons to an air cooled 911 are a bit asinine in today's environment. Any decent air cooled coupe will be much more money, and yield a car that is louder, harsher, less comfortable, and less practical. For a toy that's all stuff that makes them fun, but for a car to actually USE I prefer little things like working A/C, cruise control, clutch I can use in traffic, a decent stereo, etc. The cool thing about the 996TT is that it's a supercar that you can drive daily, drive across the country, and take to the track.

Matt, Caymans are 2900+ lb and a TT is 3500+ lb. 600 lb! That is crazy no matter the hp or boost or whatever.

and we will have to disagree on TTs being lookback cars. Not only are TTs fast Camry's, they have the same eye appeal. YMMV. :)

masraum 05-11-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10033358)
Matt, I was unser the impression the TT were 35-3600 lbs?

I found a link that says 3395 "dry". Also, one person says their car on scales with no occupants is 3480, and another with a cab says 3666 with driver (125#) another 3420 no occupant, another 3459 full of gas (no occ) an another at 3600 full of gas (no occ).

Shaun @ Tru6 05-11-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10033357)
I am not looking for a toy, have crappy riding cars for the weekends. This will be my daily driver along with dumb pick up trucks.

I know what you are saying, shaun. That's what I was afraid of, the heavy pig like my old 3000GT. I can't never toss that thing into a corner no matter how many Gs they pull on the skid pad. I think from reading all this, the 996 doesn't seem to be too bad. Issue it that I can push the car in the corners during a test drive, it not right and fair to the owner.

I have had a number of sports cars since college, the memorable ones are my first gen MR2, and the S2000 and now the Cayman (damn I live that thing). Had a NA Miata. While that was fun to get around corners, but the thing has no go. I rev the snot out of it to get around a tow truck going up a hill trying to beat him to the next light without any success. If the 996 handles 90% like the Cayman then I am seriously going to think about it. Going to see it again under real sunlight tomorrow afternoon.

Worst case scenario is you have fun with it for a few months and sell it for what you paid for it. Nothing wrong with that, life is all about experiences.

And don't listen to me. I'm picking up an 86 coupe next week and first thing I will do is take everything out of it. 2600+ lb for a 911 is just crazy. :D

911boost 05-11-2018 10:40 AM

Says the guy restoring a 928.....

Do you own one Shawn? A 996TT or daily drive one?

911 Rod 05-11-2018 10:52 AM

Trust me when I say you will not regret buying the TT.

Shaun @ Tru6 05-11-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BSiple (Post 10033386)
Says the guy restoring a 928.....

Do you own one Shawn? A 996TT or daily drive one?

I've never owned a car I did not love.

look 171 05-11-2018 11:13 AM

Sounds like I have to take this out for a drive

JeremyD 05-11-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 10033401)
Trust me when I say you will not regret buying the TT.

+100

BTW - I look back at mine when I park it -

Tervuren 05-11-2018 11:54 AM

When it comes to a fixed roof the Porsche 911 is the premium two door model. It isn't really a contest.

When you move into drop the top territory the Boxster comes in to play.

onewhippedpuppy 05-11-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10033378)
Matt, Caymans are 2900+ lb and a TT is 3500+ lb. 600 lb! That is crazy no matter the hp or boost or whatever.

and we will have to disagree on TTs being lookback cars. Not only are TTs fast Camry's, they have the same eye appeal. YMMV. :)

Here's a really good thread about 996TT weight loss. Looks like most of these started between 3,400 and 3,500 lbs. Also worth noting, you can get about 300 lbs out just by removing stuff.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/996-turbo-gt2/71489-official-turbo-weight-loss-thread-lightest-turbo-list.html

Per Excellence the 2009 Cayman S with PDK is 3,031 lbs. So we're probably talking a 400 lb and 200 HP difference.

https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/219#.WvXnl66nGpo

911boost 05-11-2018 12:51 PM

As a daily driver, they are hard to beat.

The performance is staggering, and as it relates to Camry comments, well you know what they say about opinions.......

Tervuren 05-11-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BSiple (Post 10033530)
As a daily driver, they are hard to beat.

The performance is staggering, and as it relates to Camry comments, well you know what they say about opinions.......

As it relates to Camry comments; we have a recent thread about Toyota's not being bland enough anymore.

Can't please everyone.

Like the Chaparal 2J, some cars that are inherently ugly are made beautiful by the performance.

I love the early 996 Coupe with aero kit. I also like the 996 Turbo.

brainz01 05-11-2018 05:45 PM

The 996TT you described has already had a lot of the softness taken out of the factory setup. Just remember that every 99xTT is just a few suspension pieces and alignment settings away from being 99% of similar-era GT3 in the handling department. What you won’t get is GT3 throttle response, but what you do get is 100+ extra horsepower (and if you’re really willing to spend the money up to 1000+ extra horsepower). There is no bigger performance bang for the buck than the Mezger TTs right now. Count me in the camp who thinks they’ve bottomed in price and will hold/appreciate over time.


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Tervuren 05-11-2018 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brainz01 (Post 10033793)
There is no bigger performance bang for the buck than the Mezger TTs right now.

I would say the C5 Corvette is the bigger performance bang for the buck stock or modified.

Both are going to be enjoyable cars.

I like the C5 vette for the quirky leaf springs, push rod engine, rear mounted transaxel, etc...

I like the 911 Turbo for its quirky rear engine design.

Both are vehicles that do it "the wrong way" and in both cases it makes a car that is very much right.

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2018 04:16 AM

Hard to argue with a C5 Z06, they are a screaming deal. I just can’t get past the ultra cheap interior.

Shaun @ Tru6 05-12-2018 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10033470)
Here's a really good thread about 996TT weight loss. Looks like most of these started between 3,400 and 3,500 lbs. Also worth noting, you can get about 300 lbs out just by removing stuff.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/996-turbo-gt2/71489-official-turbo-weight-loss-thread-lightest-turbo-list.html

Per Excellence the 2009 Cayman S with PDK is 3,031 lbs. So we're probably talking a 400 lb and 200 HP difference.

https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/219#.WvXnl66nGpo

Yeah, it's easy to find extremes. But lets go with 400 lb. That's the same as having a motorcycle in your passenger seat. No thanks.

It just comes down to preference.

85eurocarrera 05-12-2018 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10033539)
I love the early 996 Coupe with aero kit. I also like the 996 Turbo.

Me too😎
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526127097.jpg

Tervuren 05-12-2018 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 85eurocarrera (Post 10034050)

It is one of those cars when I see it in a parking lot I go out of my way to take a walk around and admire.

look 171 05-12-2018 08:00 PM

Went back down there to see my wrench hoping to hear the 993 motor run. Intercooler and a bunches of hoses has to go back on and he would start it until tomorrow. He throw me the keys to the 996. Its been parked there for a month and will be until sold. He's a very very small shop and works for people he knows only. His day job is a Porsche race car mechanic for one of the larger outfit here in Socal. He doesn't think the car going anywhere anytime soon. Let me tell ya, OH ME GAWD:eek:. This thing goes like a bat outta hell, second gear is nuts with the pedal only 3/4 way down. I can only compared it to my 930 which has 350 hp to wheel. The 930 feels like my bicycle after ward when I drove it home.

He showed me the invoice of the $40,000 work done to it since August of 2016. Here's the short list and tell me what you guys think.

GT2 intercoolers
Tial Alpha GT 28 turbos
Welded rad. / pipes
KW Variant 3 coilover
Front and rear bump / toe steer kit
Cup car shift assembly and cable set
Sway bar and drop link kit
Performance radiators
and a bunch of other smaller items like 0 rings and performance mufflers

What so special about performance radiators?

Man, I want to buy this already. Wife want to keep Cayman for herself since she drives a van and u-ber the kids around. Now only if I can have one parking space?:mad: I can extend the garage at my parents:confused:

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2018 08:56 PM

I don’t know what the price is, but that sounds like one hell of a car.


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