Mostly I haul Turds.....today was different.

[slow&rusty]

Curious do cars in Winnipeg rust as badly as they do in Southern Ontario?

[GWN7]

They use more salt down there due to the temp differences. So I would say no.

[asphaltgambler]

That's a pretty rare piece indeed, especially unmolested. Not sure if the market will ever be strong for that car, but none the less, I would preserve it as is. It's a piece of automotive history

[speeder]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

A lot of truth to that...

But if it were mine I would leave the body/interior stock, save all the parts and hotrod the crap outta it.

1973 the smog regulation killed the 454, save the OEM block, bump up the compression, headers, a nice intake setup and that thing could be... interesting.



Zackly why I would make it into a hot rod.

YMMV

It's too heavy to be a hot rod. The doors weigh probably 100 lbs. each. This model was the beginning of what is now referred to as, "the dark days of Detroit..."

These were tough times for the auto industry, especially Detroit although there were some serious nose-dives in European performance as well. Think of the difference between a 2.4 911S and a mid-year 2.7 911S. This is of course reflected in collector values of the various cars.

Some pretty heart-wrenching compromises had to be made by automakers with new regulations and the lag time in coming up w new technologies to meet them. Of course later, they all made cars that burned cleaner, were safer and ran circles around anything from the old days in terms of performance.

I remember working at a local Pontiac dealer as a teenager, they were also a British Leyland dealer so Jags, MG, Triumph and Jenson cars as well. I distinctly remember that it was 1975, the first year for mandated catalytic converters on domestic cars. American cars had to accept and run on unleaded gas beginning in 1971 but in 1975, it was unleaded only w cats and little stickers near the gas filler necks.

A saleslady pulled into the service lane w a brand new Pontiac Lemans or Grand Prix, it was running on, (dieseling), and would not shut-off. Something in the regurgitation system or something, wow was that embarrassing. She had a potential buyer on a test drive and the car would not turn off.

I saw that and other running problems in brand new cars a lot more that year. It was a nightmare for the front and the back of the house, as they say in the car business.

FWIW, Pontiac Trans Ams still had some balls in those years w the 400 and 455s but really, they were boat anchors compared to really quick cars of the recent past at the time.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler

That's a pretty rare piece indeed, especially unmolested. Not sure if the market will ever be strong for that car, but none the less, I would preserve it as is. It's a piece of automotive history

Lots of things are parts of automotive history best left buried. I don't mean to pile on but just because something is old and "a part of history", does not give it value.

As I stated before, if it has unique sentimental value to the owner, that's a different thing. For anyone else, it's close to valueless. And the Chevy 454 of the '70s was a garbage truck engine.

[asphaltgambler]

Interesting note - all of Detroit, but for 1 division of GM, choose the easy way out to deal with unleaded fuel and other smog devices.

It was Pontiac, who under the leadership of John Delorean that had engineers rework existing engine designs to make power with new restrictions. Sadly though, it was a very short run until '75 or so.

[GWN7]

I did a quick look to see what it was worth and it appears ones with nice shinny paint go for between $40,000 and $50,000.

As to the value of these cars because of it's age those last years (the third generation 1973-1977) were never much in demand. Big, heavy and low HP (this one is 245 hp). Start of smog equipment. If anything happened to them they were crushed because there was no demand. Because of all that there are probably not a lot of them around and are becoming more collectable. It's so ugly it's beautiful.

As the car was his mom's car and they (his family) have owned it since new there is very small chance that he will ever sell it. He doesn't need the money.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by GWN7

I did a quick look to see what it was worth and it appears ones with nice shinny paint go for between $40,000 and $50,000.

As to the value of these cars because of it's age those last years (the third generation 1973-1977) were never much in demand. Big, heavy and low HP (this one is 245 hp). Start of smog equipment. If anything happened to them they were crushed because there was no demand. Because of all that there are probably not a lot of them around and are becoming more collectable. It's so ugly it's beautiful.

As the car was his mom's car and they (his family) have owned it since new there is very small chance that he will ever sell it. He doesn't need the money.

It's just old enough to still be interesting even if, like I said previously, it's not the coolest or most desirable. There were a handful of cars that were still interesting up until the mid 70s even if they had much less power by that time. I would think that in many/most places, those cars (at least pre-74 or pre-75 when catalytic converters were on all cars) are now old enough that they could have free flowing intakes and exhausts and "smog-free" carbs and maybe a mild cam update added and be much more fun and peppy. I wish I had time, money and space to find something old and interesting.

[Steve Carlton]

$40-50K sounds sky high to me.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

$40-50K sounds sky high to me.

I agree. Way way WAY too many nice cars available at $40-50K -even with the CDN exchange rate factored in- for the '73 Chevelle no matter what is under the hood to be on a list of gotta haves for most people......

That red one that Baz posted is nice looking, though!

[GWN7]

Ok, do what I did......type in "1973 Chevelle SS 454 for sale" into whatever search engine gods you choose and then take a average of the results. Let me know what you get?

I only looked a 3 or 4 cars, so I could be wrong.

[nota]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

I agree with Steve. The SD 455 somehow got under the radar.

Edit adding YT video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4tV426_Ih8

few even know of the 71 only ho 455 round ports and hi-compression
in the t/a only
I had the block 4 bolt in my 68 GTO but never found the heads

[speeder]

Originally Posted by GWN7

Ok, do what I did......type in "1973 Chevelle SS 454 for sale" into whatever search engine gods you choose and then take a average of the results. Let me know what you get?

I only looked a 3 or 4 cars, so I could be wrong.

I could not find any for sale in a search but here is the Hagarty guide, ~$24k in showroom/concours condition. And you have to realize that almost any car made is worth $20k in concours condition. That means NEW.

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1973-Chevrolet-Chevelle-SS

[daepp]

Is it a manual or a stick?

[speeder]

Originally Posted by daepp

Is it a manual or a stick?

Good one.

[GWN7]

https://classiccars.com/listings/find/1973/chevrolet/chevelle $43,000

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale/1973-chevrolet-chevelle-for-sale $41,000 & $43,000

[Steve Carlton]

The two '73s are the same car, much better condition, maybe a different 454, and including a 4-speed. The $41,000 is a much more desirable '72. Bad comps.

From what I've seen on TV auctions, I'd think that one you hauled might bring $20-25K in great condition. As mentioned above, I agree the best way to go is to clean it up as-is, get it running, and sell as a survivor.

[vash]

i'd prefer the same vintage but the 442.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by GWN7

https://classiccars.com/listings/find/1973/chevrolet/chevelle $43,000

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale/1973-chevrolet-chevelle-for-sale $41,000 & $43,000

Those are not comps. Comps are cars that have actually sold for some amount of $$, not batschit asking prices on auto trader for cars that are actually worth less than half.

Show me an actual finished auction on one of these cars, even on ebay, and that would be a comp.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

The two '73s are the same car, much better condition, maybe a different 454, and including a 4-speed. The $41,000 is a much more desirable '72. Bad comps.

From what I've seen on TV auctions, I'd think that one you hauled might bring $20-25K in great condition. As mentioned above, I agree the best way to go is to clean it up as-is, get it running, and sell as a survivor.

It would cost $20k to make it into a $20k car. My $8.00 Misubishi parts runner truck would also cost $20k to put back in showroom condition and I could ask $20k on auto trader for it. That doesn't make it worth $20k, (or that old Chevelle worth $42k), unless and until some moron actually pays that for it.

The muscle car bubble was incredibly strong and long lasting, covering about the last 25 years. If any domestic car has any collector appeal at all, there should be dozens of confirmed sales or auction results online. Google 1972 911S or "Hemi 'Cuda" and read for days. Absolutely no one on earth collects 1973 Chevelles, at least not intentionally.

The only way that it has any value to anyone is if it was their mother's car, and it's purely sentimental value. It's a shame that mom didn't get the urge for a big block SS Chevelle 3 or 4 years sooner. Then you might have something w some collector value.