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[BUILD THREAD] The 69 911s Blasphemy Build - LASTERN

Hi all. After a scant 15 years, I'm back with another build thread. I've had this idea for the last couple of years, and I was waiting until the right car came along to build it. That car became available, and I picked it up this week:

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Note: This WHOLE build, all the decisions and fabrication, installation, etc is on my YouTube channel, and the first video is posted: http://rennch.com/youtube

THE STORY

This is a 1969 911s(!) that was heavily modified and engineered for GT2 Racing in 1994...you know, when people could buy these for 5 grand. The owner and his father were building the car...and his dad was a real engineering genius. You'll see from the close up pictures how well done it was.

The chassis was essentially gutted, and an AIR Le Mans 993 GT2 widebody kit (Currently for sale if you want to build your own RWB) was impeccably installed.

I knew I wanted to do a blasphemy build...but there was no way I was going to split up a matching numbers 911 or 912 to do it.

I'd resigned myself that I'd have to find a rusty heap and spend the next two years fixing it, before I got to the fun stuff.

I was looking for a chassis...I didn't care about engine or trans, I didn't need the gauges, wiring, wheels, or any of the interior. My budget was 10k for the shell.

When this came along, I thought it was fake, or a scam. Not a bit of rust, a bunch of trick bits (More on that later), and it was 10k.

Needless to say, after jumping in my car and checking it out in LA, it was a no brainer. Here are a few pics of the car, then I'll show you guys some of the engineering.

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Engineering Marvel

This thing was really well built for GT2 Racing. I was excited because I was already planning on doing a rollcage and coilovers, so those tough jobs were already done. In addition, we've got adjustable camber front and rear, lots of trick suspension bits, pass through rear deck, and a bonkers dual coil cooler system in the front:

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So, what's the plan?

I do a LOT of targa events. 1500 mile road rallies. And rennch is going to be putting on a few rallies as well. So, I want a car that's long road trip comfortable. It will have modern amenities, but hopefully be executed in a period-correct way.

It will NOT have a Porsche engine. It will have a Porsche trans...in fact, a G96 from a 996. Six-Speed, Cable Actuated. I picked that up yesterday. It will have 400+ Hp.

It will have modern architecture and engine managment. It will hopefully run flex-fuel on E85. It will have lots of trick bits. It will piss off some purists.

Part of what I want to do with it is "proof of concept". Prices have gotten so outrageous for these cars that I'd like to be able to show people that you dont need to mortgage your house for modern speed and power.

Naked...and ready for some body panels

Ambitious...but so was your first build. Enjoy the process.

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Originally Posted by Edoyle (Post 10554977)

Ambitious...but so was you first build. Enjoy the process.

I *do* enjoy learning new things.

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Wait, what your last build was 15 years ago? Wasn’t it the “grey ghost” .

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Originally Posted by Sebscst (Post 10555017)

Wait, what your last build was 15 years ago? Wasn’t it the “grey ghost” .

Yep. Started in 05.

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If I were any more "in" for this, I'd be sitting inside the car.

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Originally Posted by obscene (Post 10555635)

If I were any more "in" for this, I'd be sitting inside the car.

this

Modern architecture and engine management, 400+ HP...

I'm sure someone makes the components to bolt an LS based engine to your G96.

Or, Voodoo platform?

I'm not sure what the most blasphemous would be in an early 911...

How about an AMG M113K motor converted to twin turbo? Easy to find these motors for not a lot of money...

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Originally Posted by obscene (Post 10555635)

If I were any more "in" for this, I'd be sitting inside the car.

Ha ha!!

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Originally Posted by silverc4s (Post 10555811)

How about an AMG M113K motor converted to twin turbo? Easy to find these motors for not a lot of money...

THAT sounds fun. Mercedes motor in a Porsche!

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So, I'm guessing Suby turbo power?

You know, a twin turbo air cooled flat six would really make this thing special. But then where would the blasphemy be in that?

And what are your plans for the body? You don't like the 993 look?:D

Looks like a solid chassis to start with, lots of interesting fab work. I'm guessing turbo Suby as well. Makes sense to me, since you are starting with a heavily modified chassis already and these engines are just so damn expensive. When my old Subaru WRX had engine problems a new short block was $1500 from Subaru.

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Originally Posted by Cory M (Post 10557147)

I think you sunk my battleship!

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I've just uploaded video 2 of the Porsche Blasphemy Build series to the rennch YouTube channel. Would love a sub if you're so inclined.

In this vid, I size up the Porsche G96 Transmission (Six speed, cable shift) to my 69 911s (former) race car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7EZEXq2MTo

One of the main issues is the mounting type of the 915 is completely different than that of the G96. My thought is to buy a standard 915 cradle, and weld some "ears" on so I can mount the G96.

I'm in the process of waiting for body panels from Restoration Design...which reminds me,

Restoration Design, Haltech, and Eastwood have come on board as sponsors of the build! Really psyched to be working with a bunch of cool companies. Stay tuned.

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Here’s the mounting situation. Question for you guys… I need to get axles that are about 18 1/2 inches long. Is there some sort of chart that lists the lengths of different Porsche axles? I’m assuming the spline is pretty similar for the last 15 years or so.

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Originally Posted by Trackrash (Post 10582109)

Here is a good source. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/591069-cv-joint-axle-half-shaft-compatibility.html

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YES! thanks!!

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