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safe 09-12-2019 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 10590946)
Kinda understandable why shops overtighten everything. Better to have the nuts stay put than the wheels fall off, car gets damaged and someone gets injured.

Happens with tires, drain plugs etc etc


The problem isnt overtightening its lack of lubrication. That is just lazy...

DanielDudley 09-13-2019 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by safe (Post 10591022)
The problem isnt overtightening its lack of lubrication. That is just lazy...

Don't put antisieze on the seat. it can split the rim and cause it to crack to the center. If you use any antisieze, only use it on the threads, and only use a very tiny amount one time.

Get steel lug nuts if you want a solution that is fail safe. Hand tighten only, and use a torque wrench.

safe 09-13-2019 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 10591041)
Don't put antisieze on the seat. it can split the rim and cause it to crack to the center. If you use any antisieze, only use it on the threads, and only use a very tiny amount one time.

Get steel lug nuts if you want a solution that is fail safe. Hand tighten only, and use a torque wrench.

Bull.
Its in the porsche manual to lub both thread and seat.

RWebb 09-13-2019 10:51 AM

Correct - do what the engineers at Porsche tell you to do - threads AND the convex seat of the lug nut

"A little dab 'll do ya"

pmax 09-13-2019 11:13 AM

Bulletin also says always use a perfect (literally) P300 tool everytime, nothing else.

Everyone here has one ?

Chrismarine1966 11-03-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by famoroso (Post 10578994)
Ugh. Nightmare! Looks like there is (was?) a factory hole saw tool for this application...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567435019.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567435019.jpg

thanks for posting this one, great info this technical letter.

AirJose 11-03-2019 05:53 PM

John Walker said it! use a sharp pointed round chisel, about 5-6 inches long. Hit it straight initially, then in the same hole that you made (indentation) hit it carefully to rotate that part to the left (to loose it) be careful to avoid damaging each wheel; Use a good penetrating oil before chiseling it! An old mechanic saying..."Nothing was born there, someone put it there"

Best of luck,

Jose

NYNick 11-04-2019 07:29 AM

There's only 3 local P-shops in our/your area. I find it hard to believe the one in Elmsford or Bedford Hills did that to your car and had the balls to charge you for taking them off.

High Hope 11-04-2019 12:33 PM

My second car, a rusty '69 2002, had steel lug nuts that refused to come off. My dad suggested I take it to the local service station and see if they'd put some heat there. Voila, came off like butter. I don't know how this will work with alloys, aluminum, and steel.

Jgordon 11-04-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue83Cab (Post 10590814)
Hi all- back to the shop and just had them fix it. $657 to remove 3 wheels, retap the treads, test drive and a quart of brad penn. Didn't love the price but got my car back up and running so it was worth it. Next time i will be putting my lugs nuts on myself...

thanks for all the advice.

Hang on - they charged you to undo their mess? How long ago did they put the wheels on?

mepstein 11-04-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by High Hope (Post 10646418)
My second car, a rusty '69 2002, had steel lug nuts that refused to come off. My dad suggested I take it to the local service station and see if they'd put some heat there. Voila, came off like butter. I don't know how this will work with alloys, aluminum, and steel.

Yep. Working at an air cooled Porsche shop, I learned Heat is your friend for unsticking many things. The techs don’t have days to wait on penetrating oil. MAP gas takes a couple minutes.

Ryce Stallings 11-05-2019 08:53 AM

I removed one with a hole saw, the metal is soft and it was easy to cut.

gomezoneill 11-06-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AirJose (Post 10645642)
John Walker said it! use a sharp pointed round chisel, about 5-6 inches long. Hit it straight initially, then in the same hole that you made (indentation) hit it carefully to rotate that part to the left (to loose it) be careful to avoid damaging each wheel; Use a good penetrating oil before chiseling it! An old mechanic saying..."Nothing was born there, someone put it there"

Best of luck,

Jose

Do you mean a round punch? What's a round chisel?

safe 11-06-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gomezoneill (Post 10648311)
Do you mean a round punch? What's a round chisel?

A center punch, like you use for making an indentation before drilling.

gomezoneill 11-06-2019 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by safe (Post 10648320)
A center punch, like you use for making an indentation before drilling.

A center punch is not a chisel. That was my point.


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