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Blue83Cab 09-01-2019 12:03 PM

Lug Nuts Overtightened and NOW STUCK
 
Hi All- My local Porsche shop over tightened my lug nuts and I have tried everything to get them off. Heat, breaker bars, shop impact wrenches after heat applied ect.

I finally decided to just get a 19mm saw and drill them off...so i thought. I now have only one nut off, the rest are snapped and there is a little metal left that is holding the wheel to the car. See pics.

Any thoughts on how to fix this? Can't believe that paying thousands for brakes a few years ago would have caused so many headaches when i went to go get new tires.

RWebb 09-01-2019 12:04 PM

call the Service Mgr. there and see what he says

better yet send an Email so you have a record ...

86 911 Targa 09-01-2019 12:05 PM

Nuts.
 
Sorry,

Don't see pics.

Gerry

Blue83Cab 09-01-2019 12:08 PM

here are a few pics
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567368410.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567368410.jpg

Trackrash 09-01-2019 12:17 PM

I am guessing there is corrosion between the lug and wheel. Did you try liquid wrench, or equivalent?

wildcat077 09-01-2019 12:46 PM

I recently did something similar on someone's KIA where we were able to drive the studs back in enough to loosen what was left of the nuts ...

Not ideal but if they're aluminium lugnuts it might work , best case scenario is you won't damage the rims as compared to trying to cutt of the remains of the nuts with a dremel !
I used a 4X air riveting gun with a large brass snap connected to a 3/8 air hose with 125 lbs air pressure.

boyt911sc 09-01-2019 12:47 PM

Anti-seize lubricant........
 
I don’t see any trace of anti-seize lubricant on any of the lug bolts (?). What a nightmare you got there. Be careful not to ruin the wheels. Hope you succeed with minimal damage on that wheel. BTW, how many wheels are stuck?

Tony

john walker's workshop 09-01-2019 01:05 PM

Use the hole saw gently to get rid of the rest. Back off when they are through, then use a sharp point punch to get the remains off the studs. No other choice really. done lots of them, GRRRR.

mepstein 09-01-2019 01:24 PM

Next time, don't go to extraordinary means. Instead, take a pic of the wheel, drive it back to shop, talk to the manager/supervisor/owner, tell them you want it to look just like it did when you dropped it off and let them deal with it. The pics are important in case they screw up the wheel.

bpu699 09-01-2019 02:03 PM

They’re corroded, not overtightened...

I put on some recently sandblasted and powder coated aluminum lug nuts on, no anti-seize.

6 months later after rain and some car washes, took a huge breaker bar to get them off...

Aluminum, steel, and rain, don’t play well together...

RWebb 09-01-2019 02:36 PM

your local Porsche shop seems unfamiliar with the TSB on lug nuts put out by Porsche

manbridge 74 09-01-2019 03:15 PM

I would keep going with the hole saw as you have a remainder of one left to gauge how far to go before contacting wheel. I would even go so far as to put some other lugs on with a 1/8 inch or so distance from remainder and do some slow figure eights, stopping often to check. Everyone seems to think the nut in good condition is going to back off/fail (they won’t). If there is a next time, stop before you get this far!

Quasimoto 09-02-2019 01:42 AM

Too bad there’s no such thing as a left handed holesaw...

dannobee 09-02-2019 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quasimoto (Post 10578834)
Too bad there’s no such thing as a left handed holesaw...

Good point, but there's one that's close, with the diamond teeth on it used for granite and stone. But I don't know if they come in 3/4".

PatrickS 09-02-2019 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannobee (Post 10578858)
Good point, but there's one that's close, with the diamond teeth on it used for granite and stone. But I don't know if they come in 3/4".

3/4" is readily available along with any number of other sizes.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/LENOX-3-4-in-Diamond-Arbored-Hole-Saw/50073333
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-3-4-in-Hole-Dozer-Bi-Metal-Hole-Saw-49-56-9605/202327742
and other sources of course.

famoroso 09-02-2019 06:37 AM

Ugh. Nightmare! Looks like there is (was?) a factory hole saw tool for this application...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567435019.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567435019.jpg

safe 09-02-2019 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwebb (Post 10578364)
call the service mgr. There and see what he says

better yet send an email so you have a record ...

+1

safe 09-02-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 10578411)
I don’t see any trace of anti-seize lubricant on any of the lug bolts (?). What a nightmare you got there. Be careful not to ruin the wheels. Hope you succeed with minimal damage on that wheel. BTW, how many wheels are stuck?

Tony

anti-seize is a must, but I've never seen a shop use it on lug nuts/bolts.

anti-seize and they will never be stuck and never fall off.

john walker's workshop 09-02-2019 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by safe (Post 10579115)
+1

You don't need their flunkies doing any more damage. Best take your time.

Noah930 09-02-2019 11:40 AM

Anyone ever use the candle wax and lighter trick? I've only seennit on YouTube. Melt some wax and let it drip onto the threads. Supposedly the wax works its way in between the threads and voila, what was stuck is no longer unstuck.


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