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Did they change Mobil 1 15w-50 or just the bottle?

I posted this to Renn / 964 but since this concerns all air cooled I'm gonna ask the crew here -

Last time I bought 15w50 M1 - not that long ago - it had red text on the container. Now its grey. Mobil's tech specs state "Updated October 2019" and show nice high zinc/zddp and specifically call out flat tappet applications. I like all of that. But what I don't know is if the "redesign" changed the formula or is just a graphic design exercise?



https://www.mobil.com/lubricants/-/m...ide-rev-31.pdf

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I posted this to Renn / 964 but since this concerns all air cooled I'm gonna ask the crew here -

Last time I bought 15w50 M1 - not that long ago - it had red text on the container. Now its grey. Mobil's tech specs state "Updated October 2019" and show nice high zinc/zddp and specifically call out flat tappet applications. I like all of that. But what I don't know is if the "redesign" changed the formula or is just a graphic design exercise?



https://www.mobil.com/lubricants/-/m...ide-rev-31.pdf

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They added some new products and changed the packaging, I ran into the same issue when I changed the oil in my Toyota truck last summer, same oil different packaging and names in the 5w-30 weights. Looks like the just changed to label for 15w-50,

The specs for 15w-50 have been the same for the last 15 yrs
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I called and verified this is correct. Same juice new package.
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This is surely a silly question but there's something confusing me: what's the benefit of Mobil 1 15W50 with respect to Mobil 1 5W50?

Based only on the numbers, it would look like they have the same viscosity at high temperature but at low temps, the 5W50 has a lower viscosity (i.e. it has less change of viscosity with temperature).

Is 15W50 maybe better to avoid oil leaks when the engine is cold?
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Good question. Its got nearly as much Zinc/ZDDP as 15w50. It is one of the viscoscities Porsche offers. I don't know how to evaluate if 15w or 5w is a better side to err on from their own recommend 10w60 (to 3 liters)

from https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/classic/genuineparts/producthighlights/motoroil/

Developed as a 20W-50 oil for 356, 914 and early air-cooled 911 models with a displacement of up to 2.7 liters
Developed as a 10W-60 oil for air-cooled 911 models with a displacement of up to 3.0 liters
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Hmm perhaps the Valvoline 20w50 i have been using on my 3.2 should be reconsidered to a 10w60 synthetic?
I was told years ago the 20w/ cold # kept more oil on the parts than a lower # at cold start.
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