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options for AFR meters ?

I want to fine tune my CIS just for a hobby and check a few things more than anything. Before messing with it i have been looking at AFR meters and it just too expensive for me to drop that kind of coin on something i will use once every 5 years or so . Innovate is quite pricey and especially after i convert to Canadian and ship.

Has anyone found any useful options for the occasional use ? they have narrow band kits on Aliexpress but i always thought we needed a wideband.

Anyway just thought i would ask if anyone has come up with anything. Again its not for mounting in my car, Just if i start playing with CIS i have something to check with

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I went with this one in my SC. I didn’t want another gauge or to deal with running cables from rear to front. The interface is Bluetooth. Pro tip- there’s a lot of EMI in the engine compartment. I had to move the unit as close to the firewall as possible and as far away from my MSD, coil, etc or the Bluetooth connection would drop.
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Mine is mounted onboard made by 14point7 I like having it there so if I feel or hear anything unusual in the engine I can look down to give me some idea what things are doing.

BTW Canadian company and I think his name is Alan. Good guy to work with.
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thanks for the pointers guys, ill look into these.
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I'd be very careful... I suggest sticking with something that has a bit of a pedigree. AFR can be very important, and I have seen plenty of issues with faulty readings.

And there have been numerous reports of experiences with counterfeit oxygen sensors in supply chains (Bosch, NTK et cetera).

A group of of my friends have been using the excellent Ballenger Motorsports AFR500 with the production grade NTK oxygen sensor they offer. A few of us have experience with the NTK calibration grade sensor they offer. Our application is racing.

I imagine one could share the Ballenger AFR with a group of friends, each having:

an appropriately-placed bung
their own oxygen sensor
maybe their own harnesses.

Kind of a "tool sharing" arrangement.

Or one could rent out an AFR500 to a trusted circle of friends... et cetera

If one were to go that route, it would be important to remove one's sensor when it is not being used-- plugs for the bungs are inexpensive and easy to find.

I have found Ballenger to be very supportive and professional.

They even offer a lab grade NTK $sensor for those with a need for that level of accuracy and precision.
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https://news.bmotorsports.com/beware-fake-ntk-sensors-are-flooding-the-market/

I ran into issues with what I am pretty sure turned out to be a phony Bosch I bought on E-Bay for use with an AEM wideband set up I used previously.

So whatever one buys, I'd consider buying oxygen sensors only from the supplier of the controller/gauge.
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AEM!

https://www.amazon.com/AEM-30-4110-UEGO-Ratio-Gauge/dp/B00N3VGPYS/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1H7GKE5TDLLMT&dchild=1&keywords=aem+air+fuel+ratio+sensor&qid=1619835943&sprefix=AEM+air+fuel+%2Cindustrial%2C344&sr=8-5

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