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Bronze Suspension Bearings - Generation 2
I hear what you're thinking -
"But Chuck, you've been talking about these damn spring plate bearings for months. Are they ever gonna ship or are you all talk?" Yes, they are - and right now. Concurrently, the generatation 2 control arm bearings are also available and employ the same advances described here. Order from Pelican, but you'll need to call and specify what you want since they are not in the online catalog yet. Now you are saying - "I'll believe it when I see it. Show me some pictures"  Click for larger image  Click for larger image The product builds on experience gained with generation 1 and has changed in a couple of significant ways. - Rides on an inner race - Polyurethane outer jacket The inner race - - Steel race slips over the control arm/spring plate to provide a precision sized diameter for the bearing to ride upon. This eliminates issues associated with variance in the diameter of the control arm/spring plate shaft itself. - Stainless steel shims are provided for fitment between the race and the control arm/spring plate. Selecting the right size shim lets you get the race good and tight on the shaft. Shims are simply wrapped around the shaft, then the race is slipped over for a tight fit. The Poly jacket - - Reduces overall weight due to its lower density. Weight is half the gen 1 product weight. - More forgiving of variation in the size of the outer housing due to its compressibility. Minor irregularities are common on the torsion bar tube due to sloppy welds and are easily accomodated. - Absorbs some vibration The result is extremely low friction, no squeaking at all, and ride quality identical to poly bushings. This product is suitable for both street and track. Installation remains easy. No custom turning or machining is required. All parts needed for installation are included along with instructions. Easy relubrication should result in product life substantially longer than poly bushings. A few more images to complete the picture - Following is a bearing being installed into the spring plate cover:  click for larger image The same bearing fully pressed in:  click for larger image A race installed onto a spring plate:  click for larger image Spring plate installed. Grease nipples are accessible for both inner and out bearings:  click for larger image
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Hmm, what's the cost??
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I'm not easily impressed. But right now is one of those times.
Nice job!!!!! Simply beautiful and very well thought out in regards to functionality. Do they come in Aubergine?
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Very cool. Is the G2 set for the front end available?
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Very nice Chuck!
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DROOL!!!
I really like those bearings. Very well thought out. Too bad they would be hidden from view. Jamie
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Thanks for the comments.
Tyson, aubergine will be rev 3. Gen 2 is available for the control arms too. Check this recent thread by our own Eurocarrera (aka Bill Atkins) who was a beta tester for these: WOW - Bronze Elephant Suspension Bearings! Here is a pic of the control arm set:  click for larger image and a control arm race:  click for larger image Price is $220 for the control arm set, $295 for the spring plate set.
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Nice work Chuck.
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Wow, nice work.
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Chuck,
Fantastic work!! What's the maintenece schedule like on these (re-greese)?
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Very nice. Do they fit the Sway-Away adjustable Swing Plates?
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Chuck,
What type of grease do you recommend for these bushings? Standard wheel bearing moly grease or do we need the special silicone stuff used for poly bushings? Thanks! 
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Regular grease is fine. All friction surfaces are bronze-on-steel so there are none of the squeaky problems of ordinary poly bushings, no need for special grease.
Re-greasing once a year or 10,000 miles should be fine. They do not fit on Sway-a-way spring plates. Sway-a-ways have a different size shaft, in fact the inner and outer are not even the same diameter. I think the plate may also be a bit thicker.
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Not to get annoying by bringing this back up, but are you planning on making a bushing for that swayaway spring plate.
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I don't understand - nobody will ever see them so why make them so beautiful?
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I see the zerks, but have you worked a boot or o-ring to protect the grease for those of us who tend to drive in nasty splashy environs ?
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Wow! I'm really impressed. Great job Chuck.
You can count on me as a customer. They look great but I think Gulf Orange would be a better color for the cover than cadmium plate for your particular application.
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