How to get 500HP out of a'90 C2

[klober23]

What is the easyest..safest way to get a good 500 Hp out of a 3.6 C2 1990 engine? Twin intercoolers? Twin turbos? (K24?, K16?), engine up grades? What do the different things cost? Thanks again

[Jack Olsen]

Cost-effective way:

1. Sell C2 motor.

2. Buy 500-hp motor.

[klober23]

What is the best way to go? Which engine? How much am I looking at?

[Bruce M.]

And the 400 hp twin turbos don't put 400 hp to the ground, either.

[beepbeep]

Shame on you for thinking those blasphemuous toughts! You should get yourself a SC, drive autoX's and blink to every other SC (then bi**h on forum if they don't blink back )

Joke aside...on the contrary what Jack says, your N/A 3.6L engine is best suited to this sort of high-power turbo conversion! It should be fitted with lower C/R pistons, single or dual turbos, aftermarket ECU (if needed) and turbo rods. 500hp should be easily attainable...a friend of mine just dynoed exactly same configuration (albeit equipped with trick cams and expensive GT30BB turbos but standard non-ported heads) to xxx hp and 960Nm (yeas, you read right....960 Newtonmeters!!)

Horsepower figures are still hush-hush, this being a sponsored project, but looking at the torque curve i believe it's in 790-800hp ballpark...using stock N/A 3.6 crank, bottom and heads!

So if you are really game, and don't care about "you cannot put it to ground", "learn to drive first", "you don't need that much power" etc. etc. that's the perfect configuration.

Details about 800hp car (unfortunately in swedish):

http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik9.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik8.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik7.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik6.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik5.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik4.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik3.html
http://www.itsfun.nu/teknik2.html


Good luck!

P.S.
Absolutely cheapest 500hp combo is probably same engine but equipped with single Garrett GT40BB (or plain vanilla GT40 with little longer spool-up) turbo and big intercooler. It would be little laggier that TT version but it would definately go trough 500hp barrier on moderate (~1 bar) boost. If you can find someone to program it, you could re-use Bosch Moronic and just fit (much) bigger injectors.

[juan ruiz]

http://www.netquest.net/~knighton/

[grsilvia]

Here's info on my 90 C2.

Gary

400hp 3.6

[Wil Ferch]

Andial built just such a car, and it may be highlighted on their web page...but they used an early 964 C4. Car is mouse grey and was featured in many magazines a number of years ago.

As they say, hp costs $$ .... how fast do you want to go ????

---Wil Ferch

[Amac]

I think this would get you close to 500 HP.
Motech M48 ecu- $2,699.00
Cams - $800.00
k-29 turbo - $1,100.00
racegate 3psi - $500.00
B&B headers - $2,000.00
Big injectors - $600.00
intercooler -$1,500.00
coils,wires,fuel pumps - $800.00
race clutch - $1,500.00
pistons/rods - $4,500.00

Total $ 15,999.00 (if you do all the work yourself)

As you can see it takes money to run in the "Fast Lane".

[juanbenae]

2fast 2furious

[Bruce M.]

Ain't nothing rice about that list.

I'd be surprised, though, if you could get an M48 from Motech for that price, at least if you include the harness that has to be built for it. That usually adds another $1500 plus. And installing the sensors for that system, let alone dialing it in, is not for most amatuers. I know one guy who has done it, but he's a special dude...

Plus, you'd pretty much need to ring the heads for that horsepower level, and that would be some pretty significant labor that you'd definitely want done correctly. I'd also change out the springs and retainers, improve the exhaust...

[makaio]

NOS!

You said easiest.

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by Wil Ferch
Andial built just such a car, and it may be highlighted on their web page...but they used an early 964 C4. Car is mouse grey and was featured in many magazines a number of years ago.

As they say, hp costs $$ .... how fast do you want to go ????

---Wil Ferch

It had a 962 motor. Pretty neat.

[eion]

Originally posted by makaio
NOS!

You said easiest.

Didn't say that you had to be able to get 500HP out of it *twice*, after all!

Chris Bennet


Do you have more info/pics on that 962 engined 911?

BTW RS-Tuning in Germany offers this for a 964: http://www.rs-tuning.de/strasse/964/964b1v10.htm

562HP & 790Nm!!! Top speed 341 km/h depending on chosen gearing. Street legal with cats.

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by Mikkel
Chris Bennet


Do you have more info/pics on that 962 engined 911?

Andial's Web Site
Look under "Cars of Interest."
-Chris

Thanks!

520HP at 0,8 bar boost and 740HP at 1,4.....! AWESOME

Forget 3,6 transplants, I need a 962 engine Will it work with my 915 gearbox

[ChrisBennet]

That's not the only 962 engined street car. Bruce Canepa did aSpeedster with aircooled 962 motor a few years back.
-Chris