Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA & Fallbrook, CA
Posts: 388
74 US Carrera WUR advice and graph needed

While waiting for a buyer of my 2.7 motor ( listed on Pelican here ):

F/s 2.7 cis engine complete

I decided to try my luck at solving the running issues of this motor as its definitely fuel system / CIS related. Bought a pressure test kit, and began the process. First thing I find is the Warm Up Regulator on this motor is not listed in any of my factory manuals, so I am unable to locate a graph for control pressures. Does anyone know if this WUR is correct for a 74 US Carrera: 043 8140 129. All of my books say it should be 0438 140 009 for vacuum controlled regulator but some online sellers list the 129 as well for a 74.

The cold control pressure is 3.7 Bar so its either the wrong one or defective…..
( System pressure is OK at 4.5 )

Pelican collective wisdom appreciated.

Old 09-22-2022, 03:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sherwood, OR
Posts: 4,677
Garage
The 009 is for, I think, a '75 S motor. What are the part numbers are the fuel distributor?
Old 09-22-2022, 07:48 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 585
CCP for the 129 should be 1.8-2.3 bar @20c.

I believe the correct WUR for your car is the 001 used from 73.5 to 75. That’s what is in the 1974 Porsche spec book and workshop manual.
__________________
it's not leaking....it's just marking it's territory
Old 09-23-2022, 09:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA & Fallbrook, CA
Posts: 388
Correction, my current WUR does NOT use a vacuum port.

The Fuel Distributor currently on the engine is 0438 100 004 / 4843 325. Since this is an unstamped replacement motor from the 80's, maybe that will help identify the actual year and model of this engine ?

Old 09-23-2022, 09:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Crotchety Old Bastard
 
RarlyL8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 15,007
Garage
-004 FD is correct for 2.7L engine '74/5.
-009 WUR is correct for the 2.7L engine '74/5.
-129 WUR is the factory replacement for -001 and -008 units.
If it runs rich all of the time check the system and warm fuel pressure then electrical current to the WUR and fuel pump.
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds
'78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar
Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8

Last edited by RarlyL8; 09-25-2022 at 07:38 AM..
Old 09-25-2022, 07:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA & Fallbrook, CA
Posts: 388
thanks, looks like the WUR on the car is a correct replacement for a 74 motor, so definitely a defective regulator, will get it rebuilt and see how it goes.
Old 09-25-2022, 09:49 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA & Fallbrook, CA
Posts: 388
Before I start ripping into rebuilds, a bit of major confusion on test procedure. The fuel distributor on this car has a line going to the WUR, and a banjo fitting with a fuel line running to the
Pressure Regulator.

I see most CIS Pressure testing hookups online do not have that small auxiliary line going off to the regulator. My test kit comes with a fitting allowing me to include or exclude the line going to the PR. When using the CIS test procedure on this particular Fuel Distributor, should that line be hooked up to the test circuit or omitted? I get crazy results either way...

Old 09-25-2022, 11:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:10 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.