How red should the shroud be?

jhelgesen · 07-12-2003, 02:08 PM

Hey Guys, I'm spending the weekend cleaning and painting my engine tin and shroud on my 3.0. The shroud is a little faded and tired, want to repaint the red.

Whats the shade of red it should be? The faded color looks like it has a lot of orange in it.

Thanks!

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 02:46 PM

the stock color is part of the gel coat on the glass.. if I wanted to maintain stock I'd pull it and polish it with some white polishing Dupont.. with a lamb wool buffer at about 1,200-1,400 rpm.. painting is a personal opnion...........Ron

724doorE · 07-12-2003, 04:21 PM

sweet, you know your way around a buffer

MotoSook · 07-12-2003, 06:19 PM

Mine was cracked and looked too crappy to buff...so I got a can of Chevy Orange Red. It is pretty close, but then I am a bit color blind

Should work. I epoxied the cracks and applied a thin coat around areas where the gelcoat looked especially bad.

How's it look?

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by 724doorE

sweet, you know your way around a buffer

well.. that's an exotic stock Porsche red..

right now there are only two pelican heads/only two in the whole country with that shroud color.. but #3 is in progress right now..

and your gel coat can be buffed to a shine.. and it'll stay that way for awhile.. you'll have a good looking stock shroud..........Ron

kstylianos · 07-12-2003, 06:25 PM

Ron,

Thats a great looking shroud. I wonder who's it is?

724doorE · 07-12-2003, 06:26 PM

Wonder what a green one looks like buffed up? Might fit good with a Chartruese hotrod

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Souk

How's it look?

great contrast with the black.. the pic looks like a "clean" job..

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by kstylianos
Ron,

Thats a great looking shroud. I wonder who's it is?

there's power in humility, LOL.. and you saved me an e-mail, LOL

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by 724doorE

Wonder what a green one looks like buffed up?

probably like the ground at 4am Sunday, after 2 straight days of partying ..............Ron

MotoSook · 07-12-2003, 06:37 PM

Ron, I think the shine of the new paint and powdercoating is worth about 10 HP's

Zeke · 07-12-2003, 07:04 PM

If you wanted to maintain the stock color, maybe you could sand it a bit and clear coat it. Let the original gel coat show through.

724doorE · 07-12-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by RoninLB
probably like the ground at 4am Sunday, after 2 straight days of partying ..............Ron

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by Zeke

you could sand it a bit and clear coat it. Let the original gel coat show through.

yeah... your probably right..
probably a semi-gloss instead of high-gloss to fake the whole thing to new stock..
he would probably only have to hand compound it.. the clear would add the shine .................Ron

RoninLB · 07-12-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Souk

Ron, I think the shine of the new paint and powdercoating is worth about 10 HP's

maybe something like that..

how about the stock gel coat boundary air is negated by the new tight structural ridges of the paint finish.. so it would be a better heat conductor.. something like polishing heads.. so the engine heat being transferred to the inside of the shroud is thrown off faster/more efficently.. so the engine has a better heat envelope.. and if you could estimate this in BTUs, then convert to HP.. I think we would be figuring 10hp..............Ron

pwd72s · 07-12-2003, 07:46 PM

HOOT!

jriera · 07-13-2003, 05:47 AM

As part of my engine drop to fix oil and fuel leaks and thanks to Ron (RoninLB) patience, instructions and guidance I went from this old, tired looking, leaking 2.4 (CIS) engine:

to this old, but nice looking (and hopefuly not leaking) 2.4 engine:

'Magic' red paint formula plus black POR-15, some (a lot of) sanding and patience, plus Ron support did the trick (I think), I must be the #3 that Ron mention in a previous post in this thread.

Ron, I will take some better pictures later for your 'collection'. Thanks.

Randy Webb · 07-13-2003, 11:35 AM

How long will the paint stay on the shroud w/o flaking? That'd be my concern. I have one with a few areas of flaking. Next engine gets a polished red shroud w/o paint.

RoninLB · 07-13-2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Randy Webb

How long will the paint stay on the shroud w/o flaking?

a legitmate concern.

the pre install pic I posted reads 98 11 19. that's camera speak for Nov. 19, 1998.. that's about 40k miles ago.. it's slightly darker now, but not much.
so Porsche Ruby Red shroud #1 is still perfect.. PRR#2 is an exact copy of fiberglass/acrylic-urethane technique #1.. and I'm sure "in-progress" #3 will keep the flow.. right Jordi.
Fiberglass/gel coat prep, maintaining glass breathing, thickness of paint layers, and technique for shroud edges all come into play to prevent "flaking". I'm sure that when I pull the engine soon a 10 minute hand polish will return it to brand new.
................Ron