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used 930 point of reference:

I have no connection to this car, but OMG is it nice! Too bad about the blue interior IMO, (I would actually go to the trouble and expense of switching it w/ a black one), the rest of the car is off the hook, in my book! Exterior color and condition, ROW equipment and trim, etc...

I think that it is easily worth the reserve/ "buy it now" price. What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453325879&category=10156

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I'm no expert, but grey market cars have got a really bad wrap so their price will always be lower than one might expect. If the conversion was done properly (most weren't) then I'd assume that it's gotta be a pretty nice car for the money.

I've always been torn with these 930s though. To me I think a 993 would be a better car for that kind of money. But i've never driven /ridden in a turbo car before.

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Old 01-11-2004, 10:34 PM
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Wow nice! Are you in the market? Just one knit-pick though: It looks as though the rear deck lid might have been repainted at some point (imperfections around the "turbo" emblem), and is obviously misaligned as well.
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Deck lid might need to be adjusted, (or maybe wasn't closed properly while they were taking these pictures), but I don't see other problems w/ it? Of course the car would need to be inspected in any case. Seller specifically allows outside PPIs in the ad.

I am not in the market, but would make an impulse buy immediately if I could afford to hit the "Buy It Now" button. I have always had a weakness for euro 930s in beautiful colors.

As for the "grey market" issue, all 930s from 1980-85 were grey market, and I greatly prefer Euro cars to U.S. cars in all circumstances. If they are cheaper on the U.S. market, that would be to my benefit. Once again, a very thourough PPI and preferably complete records will remove any conversion issues. Fortunately, very little needed to be done to these cars to Federalise them, and it's all reversible.
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Dents on rear lid are very common as owners tend to close them by pressing on sheet metal instead as they should, bu holding on to wing. I had it too...

P.S. I don't see why ROW car should be worse than US...
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That cars is gorgeous. So tempting. How hard to put black carpets in it and do you think it would look good with deviating black carpets.
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Oh I saw that too... Nice - and I thought that in the Turbo - ROW was better...
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ROW 3.3 930's had 300HP stock and better fuel system. As far as i know, there were no US 3.3 models until late 80's and even they had 20HP less then ROW models from 10 years ago...

I mean, if you want to pay extra for thermal reactors and less power, go ahead...
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Denis -
Nice looking car, and assuming a clean bill of health on a PPI, I'd say $30,000 - $30,500 is the high end price. I did a lot of looking a few months ago before I bought the '79 and I think that prices have even come down a bit since then.
PM me if you'd like price point details.

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Forget the car, what about the T-6 in the background?
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On the decklid fitment all 930 decklids tend to sit like that. It used to concern me that my 930 looked like that until I got a copy of the Porsche 930 factory sales brochure from 1986. The decklid of the car in the brochure sits just like that one.
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As the owner of a 1985 Turbo I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. My car was imported in 1986 and federalization consisted of door crash bars, USDOT headlamps, red/white rear lens covers and USDOT exhaust. I have all the signed documentation. The owner saved the Euro parts and promptly swapped everything back (with the exception of the door bars). I don't understand why the grey cars get a bad rap. It's not like the electrical system, fuel system or other critical component was ripped out and redone. The only difference from a US turbo is the fuel system, which I gather is a definite plus. I've owned the car for over a year now and have had nothing but fun with it. If you have the beans buy the turbo... grey market or not!

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Forget the car, what about the T-6 in the background?
John, did you click on the ad? There are a couple of gorgeous planes behind the car, but I don't know my airplanes, so what are they?

As for the car, It looks to be a "10" if you like the color. A 1985 w/ all of the Euro equipment intact is extremely desirable IMO, I worked at a U.S. Porsche dealer at that time and I know the cars. The only thing to remember is that records, (especially early records and importation paperwork), are important to verify milage/when the car came in, etc... This is a 300hp bone-stock car, (as opposed to 282hp for U.S. model in '86), yes, they are all easily upgraded HP-wise but this is a better starting platform. I would mildly tweak it to ~350hp on pump gas. This car is so gorgeous and it will really slap your passenger for you if necessary.

I don't have the loot, but will someone please buy this for me??
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And BTW, low miles 930s are common on ebay, but virginal, stock Euro cars like this are "needle in a haystack" in the U.S., someone is going to really score.
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This thing is smoking hot. I'd love to bag the blue carpet, other then that its sweet.
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Looks to be worth the money.
This guy is just around the corner, I
could take a look if you want.
I bet the interior looks better than you
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Yeah, the whole interior has to go, IMO. Wonder what a mint full leather interior w/ heated sport seats (in blue) would go for? Enough to buy a mint black interior w/ an '86-up dash? (Big vents). And buy a DAS roll bar + Recaro Pole Positions?

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Amac, I don't have the loot for it, but if you have time take a peak and tell us what you think.

(So that I can really hang myself).
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I'll swing by on my way home, I had
no idea this guy was even there.
Stay tuned!!

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