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porschenut 04-08-2004 08:40 AM

License revocation due to excessive speed
 
I've had my p-car for about a month now and occasionally I've pushed it to see what it can do. A week ago I was driving along a smooth winding road at 100mph and doing just fine. I passed a speed limit sign that said "35".

Then two days ago I opened her up on a lonely section of highway north of Denver. Speed limit is 70mph, I got her up to 140 and the needle was still going north...er...south at that point on the dial:cool: My exit approached sooner than I wanted to so I ended the speed run after a few seconds.

Question: What would have happened if I had been laser'd at 140 in a 70? Permanent license revocation or just a suspension with a nasty fine? I've researched speeding penalties in Colorado but the top one I can find pertains to speeds from 20-24mph over the posted limit. There doesn't seem to be one for "25 or more".

So, whaddya think would happen?

Paul Franssen 04-08-2004 08:45 AM

Poor, poor boy...gonna be a hangin'...they hang him high and dry...poor poorscheboy... (Colorado blues).
I don't know about Colorado, sounds colorful to me...

MotoSook 04-08-2004 08:49 AM

In Illinois, a 30+ is a visit to the jail house (so my Sheriff Deputy buddy tells me). Of course there are variables..like if the cop is having a good day or is a car buff.

Best to be careful and give the cop a break....

JP911 04-08-2004 08:50 AM

It varies by state, but I would imagine that you would probably be taken away in handcuffs and your car impounded if you were caught doing 140 mph. Anyone who says they haven't dabbled in the 100+ zone on a public road is probably either lying or has a broken speedometer, but it really is a very bad idea and a good way to get yourself or others dead in a hurry.

RickM 04-08-2004 08:51 AM

Depending on state I wouldn't be surprised to see arrest and possible (permanent?) impounding of car. They could probably think of alot of things to write you up for. Better off doing this sort of thing on a track.

SilverPoly 04-08-2004 08:52 AM

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What would have happened if I had been laser'd at 140 in a 70?
Why would you even want to find out? Take it to a track or some dry desert lake. I don't know about Colorado but in California it would be Impoundment of the vehicle. You'd probably say bye bye to your license too.

If the reckless driving offense involved motor vehicle operation at a speed 100 MPH, the vehicle owned and driven by the offender may be impounded for a 1st offense not more than 6 months and for a 2nd offense not more than 12 months. Veh. Code §§14602

slope-nz 04-08-2004 09:11 AM

I would think most of us have gone way too fast on the open road at one time or another,but at this stage of my life I would really hate to try to explain why I was going 140 mph to a cop and then a judge. I have no doght that your ride would end in handcuffs. I also know that I love driving my cars to much to loose that privlige. I will also remind myself of this the the next time the road is clear. Randy

bigrubberjeep 04-08-2004 09:19 AM

Take it to a track, really it is not worth the risk. It just so happens that the next timeyouthink the road is clear is when a trooper pops out of nowhere (or a helicopter) or even worst, an INNOCENT pedestrian or other driver.

Could you really justify a few seconds of speed for that risk?

So take it to the track, and only risk your own life, not others.

emcon5 04-08-2004 09:19 AM

You get to toss the salad.

Tom

IROC 04-08-2004 09:20 AM

So how am I supposed to bed in my Pagids? I've been using 100+ speeds to do that. I usually do it school zones.

Just kidding. About the school zone part.

Mike

doozer 04-08-2004 09:23 AM

Georgia = Jail + possible loss of pcar for 30 days.

Yea - I did not think they could do that either... Gotta love those small towns..

I lost my mom's 930 for a month in Newnan Ga when I was 18 years old :(

No I was not supposed to be driving it but they were out of town and my 912 was down.

I was heading tword Atlanta going way too fast - one cop clocked me from an overpass and they set up a roadblock up ahead on HW85

I don't do this on the highway anymore - find a racetrack - don't endanger others :)

slope-nz 04-08-2004 09:40 AM

doozer, almost had the same problem in Barnsville GA. 25 years ago.If you know were Newnan is you proubly know were Barnsville is . Small world, Randy

doozer 04-08-2004 09:43 AM

Yes spent a lot of days waxing police cars to pay off fines :)

rickeolis 04-08-2004 09:49 AM

I do know this: 132MPH gets me (er- someone...) into jail and a HUGE fine, AND a year of lost license, in New Mexico- :rolleyes:

RickM 04-08-2004 09:54 AM

Isn't this kind of like the "What would it be like to go 150" thread?

What ever happened to it? :eek:

Superman 04-08-2004 10:30 AM

I believe that, in Washington State, double the posted speed limit is automatic Reckless Driving. That gets you a shiny set of bracelets and free Bed and Breakfast for openers, then fun stuff like impoundment, license revocation, difficult discussions with your insurance agent, etc.

And, as some folks have reminded us here, it could be much worse than that.

pwd72s 04-08-2004 10:36 AM

When 5 cop cars show up in your driveway at once, you begin to realize that you're getting to old for this kind of stuff....

zotman72 04-08-2004 10:52 AM

We do have one track at Pueblo where you might see 135 or more at the end of the front straight or perhaps on the banked turn of PPIR you can reach 120. You really do not want to risk the loss of your Pcar for this type of "pleasure" on the open roads of Colorado. The Colorado Highway Patrol are not very sympathetic and do not ask me how I know. The Rocky Mt. PCA track season is starting up, perhaps you need to check us out. Top speed is not all a 911 is about as you well know. HTH.

vash 04-08-2004 10:59 AM

i think some brainy nerdy civil engineer type did some kinda math wizardry to come up with the speed limit. whether is it sight stopping distances, residences in the area, vertical or horizontal curves, whatever. i love speed, but ya gotta be careful. hell, you said you only had the car a month? there is alot of weight behind you on these cars and in an emergency situation, i bet this car will do thing differently. like slingshot your.....nevermind..... have fun, be careful,.........stay out of jail. you are too pretty for jail.

Schrup 04-08-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by pwd72s
When 5 cop cars show up in your driveway at once, you begin to realize that you're getting to old for this kind of stuff....
That happened a couple days ago to a local biker. The WSP saw him going 130mph from a plane, they chased him for an hour, & backed off. Then a news copter followed him home. DUMBASS

Jgordon 04-08-2004 11:08 AM

Doozer, it's pretty cool that your mom had a 930.

Emission 04-08-2004 11:23 AM

Don't get caught. You really don't want to know how sucky things could be.

John Brandt 04-08-2004 11:40 AM

They'll hang you from the highest yardarm in the British Fleet.

Bill Verburg 04-08-2004 11:43 AM

I once got a 95 in a 55, Lawyer time:(

dvkk 04-08-2004 11:45 AM

A friend of mine has a non-Pcar set up for drag racing. Its done 11.7 on nitruos. One summer day on a clear road with nothing around he opened it up to the top of 3rd. Straight into a laser trap. Even though he was doing triple the limit, they just gave him a regular ticket. The real reason they didn't give him more was that they said he was accelerating so fast they couldn't get a stable reading! He was super polite and had a clean record. Then afterwards gave them a lesson on how nitrous works. How you treat them can help.

doozer 04-08-2004 11:59 AM

Thanks Jgordon, She rocked! Rest her soul....

Scooter 04-08-2004 12:08 PM

Some Info:

First look at this: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/enforce/speedlaws501/toc/cospeed.pdf

Then look at this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1081454610.gif

jluetjen 04-08-2004 12:29 PM

Let me get this straight -- if I engage in a speed contest or attempt to elude police I'd get 12 points and lose my license for a year. If I was a driver for employement and did the same thing I would get 12 points but KEEP my licenses???

Whasupwidat???

porschenut 04-08-2004 12:42 PM

Hey, looks like the worst I could get is 90 days in jail, $300 fine, and 1 year license suspension! Now, where'd I leave those keys....

BTW, for the record there were no other vehicles in sight when I did this, so at least I was only risking my own safety.

Still, sharing a cell with Bubba isn't on my life's list of things to do. As for shiny bracelets, I've tried them on before and didn't like them at all.

bigrubberjeep 04-08-2004 12:45 PM

Porschenut - "BTW, for the record there were no other vehicles in sight when I did this, so at least I was only risking my own safety."

Famous last words. Most people that die speeding or die killing someone else sure didnt do it knowing they would.

geof33 04-08-2004 12:54 PM

Anything over 100mph is feloney speeding. Arrestable, big finable, impoundable, and lost license-able.

Why are you doing 100 in a 35? That's pretty much stupid:eek: (unless it's Independance Pass!!!:D)

Now, having done 130 on I-25 between Denver and Colorado Springs in the "safe zones" (stupid as well) I can't really say much!! It's an addiction that needs to be fed occasionally. I think the key to the game is to not be an ********* on the roads. If one is darting traffic, tail-gating etc. then one deserves the "good citizen" call to the PD. If your clear and opening it up... Look around for choppers, learn patrol patterns and go for it.

Pueblo, BTW is a really fun track that can be rented for REALLY cheap anytime you want to get crazy.

PPIR is a total blast too...

Randy Webb 04-08-2004 01:23 PM

YOu will need to look this up in the motor vehicle code (at the local courthouse).

realize that a cop need not write you up for everything he can

and... confiscation could be done at the scene or only after a court order -- you need to check all this stuff out and not rely on a posted opinion.

rickeolis 04-08-2004 01:55 PM

So what's the latest deal in Montana?
Can you still go fast there on open highways?

porschenut 04-08-2004 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geof33
Pueblo, BTW is a really fun track that can be rented for REALLY cheap anytime you want to get crazy.

PPIR is a total blast too...

Now I'm getting the track bug.:eek: oh, noooooo.......told myself I wouldn't track it due to no insurance coverage, hard on the car, etc. After my little "initiation", I can feel the track beckoning.

Regarding Pueblo, can I just drive down on a whim, pay the fee, and off I go? Or is getting track time a little more involved? I know I need a helmet but other than that I'm clueless as I've never done anything like that before.

And PPIR? I'm surprised they would let people drive their street cars on it outside of an organized event. I'm jones'in for a banked oval.

porschenut 04-08-2004 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rickeolis
So what's the latest deal in Montana?
Can you still go fast there on open highways?

AFAIK, Montana still has no posted speed limits.

RoninLB 04-08-2004 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porschenut
AFAIK, Montana still has no posted speed limits.
last time I was on I-94 the posted limit was 75.
Socker mom vans were doing 90

geof33 04-08-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porschenut
Now I'm getting the track bug.:eek: oh, noooooo.......told myself I wouldn't track it due to no insurance coverage, hard on the car, etc. After my little "initiation", I can feel the track beckoning.

Regarding Pueblo, can I just drive down on a whim, pay the fee, and off I go? Or is getting track time a little more involved? I know I need a helmet but other than that I'm clueless as I've never done anything like that before.

And PPIR? I'm surprised they would let people drive their street cars on it outside of an organized event. I'm jones'in for a banked oval.

Call the Peublo Raceway for details on the useage of the track. For individuals it's a call, setup a time and go. If you have an "event" there is more involved. Keep in mind, your TOTALLY on your own on the track. Some friends of mine have done it in the past, but it has been a couple of years. Cost was like 75.00 a day.

PPIR is an event only deal that is run by the Alpine and Rocky Mountain Regional PCA. Very cool... and very reasonably priced for a track event.

Jim Sims 04-08-2004 02:51 PM

I believe Montana has speed numrical speed limits now; instead of "safe and prudent" or whatever it was before. I guess they got tired of idiots traveling there just to go fast and have a wreck. Residents before the "55 time" would usually drive 70 to 80 mph max in the daytime depending on conditions. The bigger risks were hitting an animal or boredom plus the fact that in places like central Montana if you had a wreck it might be an hour before another vehicle came along. Jim

rudy sanchez 04-08-2004 02:56 PM

funny, I know a guy that was going home from work late one night. he decided to let his boxter S run free. he was up to 164 when he saw the cop. he figured no way in hell can that guy catch me at this speed, so he just kept at it!

but then came the roadblock ahead and he didn't even see the spike strip. I think he did go to jail for that one.

he sold the porsche and said it was the most frustrating car he'd ever driven because it was impossible to drive at speed limit. he now drives a taurus and still gets flustered when he talks about that night. he says the cop must be an idiot to be out taking radar at 4 in the morning. he's got a PHD in physics so of course it must be the fault of the car and the cop :-)

mudman 04-08-2004 03:10 PM

Two worst tickets for me: In KY, 117mph on I75, speed limit is 65 or 70. I pulled over and stopped even before the cop had gotten out of the median. No jail though!

In MI, 87 in a 50 (country road). Cop was not in a good mood, had to go to court to convince the judge I am a good kid, cop never showed up, ticket and charges thrown out!
-Jeremy


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