Just installed Seine Systems Gate Shift!

[CarreraS2]

Originally posted by needlevalve
Thanks for the link Tim. That's an attractive price, I recently noticed a gated shifter setup from performance products priced up around $1,400!

Matt

$1400?!?

For $1400, you'd be better off buying a 914, and driving it for a few weeks.

Your stock 911 linkage and shifter will feel MUCH improved after that!

[UTKarmann_Ghia]

I did the same last month and it feels great. It took a couple weeks to get used to a spring-loaded 1-2 again, but very worth it. Kinda annoys me though just how much those small amount of parts cost. I'm sitting looking at the parts in the kit and wondering what I paid $150 for. I'd love to find somebody else who sells one for what the parts are worth + a (non-ridiculas) profit.

[Randy Webb]

Remember these are not large manufacturing runs - a lot of the cost is for a small run of something. Plus the design costs are not spread out over a lot of units either. I don't know if the price is "fair" or not, but those are things to consider.

[Sonny]

I thought this shifter helped to avoid accidentally moving into the 1st-2nd gear plane with the addition of tabs on the left side of the shifter and one more spring for that purpose. Can this modification also prevent "buzzing reverse" like a geek (me) when going from 5th to 4th??? After all, the stock spring lockout setup is for that purpose and works like crap. How does the seine gate shifter improve the problems on that side of the shifting plane.

I am ready to buy one if you guys really think it is a good mod.

[geof33]

Originally posted by Sonny
I thought this shifter helped to avoid accidentally moving into the 1st-2nd gear plane with the addition of tabs on the left side of the shifter and one more spring for that purpose. Can this modification also prevent "buzzing reverse" like a geek (me) when going from 5th to 4th??? After all, the stock spring lockout setup is for that purpose and works like crap. How does the seine gate shifter improve the problems on that side of the shifting plane.

I am ready to buy one if you guys really think it is a good mod.

Sonny,

You need to rebuild your shifter. It needs new springs and a new fork. Possibly new bushings and maybe a new coupler.

Rebuilding the shifter is reletively cheap and pretty easy to do.

I did my pins, springs, fork and readjusted the whole thing. Did the coupler and new shift bushings, spent 120.00 and about 2 hours. Car shifts very, very well. There is no way I could nick reverse with this. It literally pops out of fifth into the plane of fourth.

[ischmitz]

Nicking reverse is usually a poorly adjusted shift coupler if your bushings are in good shape. It's the rotational adjustment that is slightly off. Ask me how I know.

Ingo

[Westy]

I have to chime in here. I'm new to my 81 SC, but have found that sometimes 2nd really requires me to pull the shifter into it. One time I couldn't get it into first or second without working it hard. I have the receipts and know that the tranny was rebuilt and a short shifter installed. I was worried it was a crappy job, but maybe not. Is this just an SC tranny woe? Is the gate shifetr the answer. For 150 bucks, that's a cheap fix if it's for real.

Thanx, Brian W.

[Glasgow 911SC]

Brian,
I dont think the gate would help your problem. It's designed to prevent a 5th-2nd downshift meaning the axis between 1-2 to 3-4 is defined.

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Westy
I have to chime in here. I'm new to my 81 SC, but have found that sometimes 2nd really requires me to pull the shifter into it. One time I couldn't get it into first or second without working it hard. I have the receipts and know that the tranny was rebuilt and a short shifter installed. I was worried it was a crappy job, but maybe not. Is this just an SC tranny woe? Is the gate shifetr the answer. For 150 bucks, that's a cheap fix if it's for real.

Thanx, Brian W.

I put in the Seine shifter, shift rod bushing and new coupler. Things were doing pretty good - then I got greedy.

I tried to adjust the shifter using the method in Pelican Tech section. Dumb, dumb. That method calls for having the car in neutral between 1 & 2. You can not really do this if the spring mechanism keeps you between 3 & 4.

If you have the Seine, use the method that starts everything in first gear.

I could go into first at 30mph, but 1st to 2nd was feeling forced. I re-adjusted it eight times to get it: shift into first at 20mph, medium or 1/2 the strain of before to get it into 2nd gear.

However, for the first time I nicked reverse (3rd to 4th), if its a problem that shows up again, I will have to adjust the couple a ninth freak'n time.

It was all worth it.

As I see it, I just bought several driving seasons for $200 before a full $2,000 tranny rebuild.

[chrisp]

Actually what you bought yourself was insurance towards a multi thousand $ engine rebuild due to bent valves.

[RickM]

Originally posted by needlevalve
Thanks for the link Tim. That's an attractive price, I recently noticed a gated shifter setup from performance products priced up around $1,400!

Matt

What product are you referring to from Performance Products? I couldn't find a product in this category for $1400.

Don't confuse the Seine product with the Wevo INTERNAL gate mechanism. Judging from the price it could be the Wevo internal Gateshifter and billet Shifter.

http://www.wevo.com/porscheproducts.htm