See, you need to lay off the sunscreen, wannabe! And try working outside, instead of lying around lazy on Huntington Beach, all oiled up. ;)

George

It's a Jeep tan!

When i step out of the "Double Wide" My white pasty skin soaks in too much sun so i have to grab some motor oil and rub myself down so i dont blister! ><

Once I get my Momo seats in I am removing all the foam from the roll bar and installing it on my sons Jeep. Problem Solved! :D
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1087493215.jpg

Hey, now a tirade about the improper use of a single jack stand.........

A chip off the old block! :D

G

AHHHH hahahahahhahaha!!!

Thats awesome shawn!!! :)

Milt, that's a pretty hefty motor in that jeep. I bet it sounds mean!

Zeke: Is yours an Autopower bar also?

Yes. The harness bar and the diagonal brace are not connected. Perhaps an older model. I just got the seats back in and I can adjust the driver's seat all the way back, but the passenger seat hits the diagonal in the second from last notch. They might have improved on that, I don't know. It's fine with me.

Next, I will build a seat back brace so the roll bar police here don't arrest me. (That is to keep the seat from breaking off and flying into the rear of the car with me in it if I back the car into the wall. Actually, the harness bar is below the top of the seat, so it would catch there before I flew out of the back window. :D)

Hello,
I thought it wasn't structurally sound to anchor the roll bar to the floor which can't hold much. Doesn't the bar need to anchor on the sill?
Wouldn't the weight of the car (on it's roof) colapse the floor mount points?
Just curious,
J.P.

I think I better shut up and refer you to the search function. This has been beaten to death. Two camps out there! Of course I am heavily opinionated in one camp. Guess which one! :D

Cheers, George

No doubt about that. These are just for autox and drivers ed. No wheel to wheel racing. They won't pass tech for many orgs. The floor mount bolt in simply provides a level of safety and a decent way to install a harness.

I actually like the "rough around the edge" attitude of your jeep. Is that a sbc in there? That'll seal the "redneck" :)

I often try to believe that the critics on the board are doing it for our own good. Problem is that we often take these comments personally, and that is easy to do since it is our personal work. Its amazing how fragile we can get about our cars. I always love the concours statements in a thread about "how do you like my mods".

can I get an update on your sons engine transplant? That lawnmower engine should work well.

Shawn you probably have noticed I havent really post lately, the idiot group here has grown by leeps and bounds

anyway I think I remember telling you about my wreck in my race car at about 120, I am not glad I smaked my head on the seat brace, but I am glad that brace and that roll bar was there, mometum is far worse in most cases then actually hitting some, if there is something extremly close to your head (like my car has) you head doesnt build momentum, the further it travels the more damage it will do even if it doesnt hit anything, so I too am putting a roll/bar/cage in my Porsche.

A couple days ago I seen a documentory on side impacts, Most cars can not stand a 30mph impact in the side, and yes this includes P cars, and it is even worse when hit by a suv with high bumpers, Your kids have a better chance with that roll bar and cross brace in a side impact then with out, even if it broke there nose or something worse, they would have a better chance to make it with it in, an expidition in a side impact at 30mph would probably not stop until it hit the center tunnel, mainly because there is no support between the side windows. I dont think it could make it that far with your roll bar and brace, I just dont get what these people are saying, People survive in high speed wrecks all the time with roll cages or roll bars, but they are unsafe for the street, ????

anyway the padding you have works fine for low speed stuff, I think the padding you were looking for is in the link below, just scroll down, stop caring what the clowns say and make it safe if your gonna track it, remember most of those guys cant even change thier own oil or even find a spark plug, the worse part is that they come across as the master of all, but have only read or is repeating hear say,

back to the B

http://www.stockcarproducts.com/acc16.htm

Kevin....The Anti-George.:D

I think the sill mount bars are better as well. Like Milt said the floor mount ones are good for us DE guys.

Smitty,
You should see that Power Wheels Jeep smoke the plastic tires!;)

Hey, who you callin' a redneck? ;) That Jeep is not rough around the edges either. Frame off restoation and paint. And I would only be a redneck if it had a Ford in it. :D But, yes, it is a SMC, those are the ones that the Corvette valve covers you see in there fit best. :rolleyes: :p

I don't get it, you see the irony of this, but you missed the point of the Jeep entirely. :D :p :rolleyes: That's OK, I built it for my wife. It was her Dad's. He put the Chevy in it in 1960. When he died, she wanted it for a keepsake. That's my wife, never satisfied with a framed picture on the dresser. Got to have his whole freaking car. We are car people to the bone.

Back to roll bars. the laws of inertia will show that if an SUV hits a light 911, the 911 will travel further. Just like a que ball hitting a golf ball. This produces acceleration in a different direction where the people inside the car react in a counter acceleration. So you're gonna get knocked around in there quite a bit. Any body crumpling will lessen this effect and Porsches are pretty good at that. This best thing is to be tied down well so you don't hit your head, arms, legs or torso on the car as it accelerates. The worst thing about a side impact is that while the other car is entering the side of your car, you are, in effect, traveling toward the other car. There wiil be some situations where a roll bar will be better and some where it won't. If we could design our collisions, we could more easily design our safety equipment.

A large part of the bolt in roll bar installation is to be able to use a harness that will hold you so you can drive better w/o sliding all over the seat. One might even not consider the thing as impact protection.

As I said, it's just a convenience and a short step toward total safety. And, in some sitauations, maybe even a step backwards. Whadya gonna do?

Wow, I am waiting on my roll bar. Hope I don't catch as much crap as you guys. Just wanted to read about roll bars. From what I have seen (That was not hi-jacked) you guys have done a great job. Hope mine turns out half as well as yours.

Just attach it to the floor using JB Weld and wrap it in tissue paper. You'll be fine. ;)