How do I replace the old rubber trim of my SWB vent windows?

[svonkampen]

Hi all,


The rubber trim/seal of my front vent windows is all brittle and broken......
How do I remove it and replace it?
Unfortunately this isn't covered in my "101 Projects For Your 911" book.


thanx,

[KevinP73]

You'll have to remove the frame from the door in order to get the window out of the frame. It becomes clear once you see the entire assembly.

[Randy Webb]

I punted on this one and took it to a pro. It looked really hard to me.

[svonkampen]

Randy,

What car do you drive?

My front Vent windows are not fixed.....They open....Your's too?
How much did the pro charge you?

SvK

[bob tilton]

i did this on my '68 without removing the entire window frame. just remove the doorpanels and access everything from the inside. the vent window pivots on a peg and there is a small bracket that holds it in plate. remove the bracket to remove the window. then insert the seal and re-install.

[svonkampen]

Bob,

Sounds easy.....finally something I can handle......will do
BTW my sportseats are ready this Friday....WOOOHOOOO

Perforated leather bolsters and Corduroy centers (sorry for being off-topic)

[Randy Webb]

Well, mine is a '73 -- mostly. I had the older frames put in just to add the opening vents (which I grew to love in my old 2002 many decades ago...). I don't recall the cost - but it won't help anyway as it included the frames and labor ofr them + trying to make the doors close better and fit better.

I think you should ask around. And -- always -- ask "how any of these have you done before?"

And ask at body shops too, not just Porsche mech. places.

[bob tilton]

if i could do it then it was indeed easy. i did remove the window frames to replace the "felt" channels for the roll down windows.

[DavidI]

On my 67, I took the frame apart very carefully. It was not all that hard to do, just time consuming.

Good luck, David

[Randy Webb]

I should point out that I consider myself a real klutz at any artistic or artisan type things.

Sounds like you shold go for it. Post your experiences.

[svonkampen]

Bob,

Removed the door panels........but I could not find that bracket that holds the vent window in place.......is it visible?

Had to screw everything back together......bummer

SvK

[bob tilton]

i seem to recall doing it by "touch". it was a small notched L type bracket. my memory may be a bit foggy considering this was one of the first project i did 4 years ago. i know that i did not remove the frame.

[Dutchie]

maybe this helps ?

[Adelaide901]

This is an old thread but I just did this job today and it may help someone in the future.

This is a real PITA if you dont know how to attack it. You dont need to take the window frame out or disassemble it. You do need to take off the door trim.

The quarter vent pivots at the top of the window frame at that obvious hinge on the outside and at the bottom through the bottom of the frame on what is effectively a few inches long spike.

Take off the door trim and you will need to loosen the clasp at the bottom of the spike. I forget the size of the bolt head but its something like a 6mm hex bolt, I also dont have a pic but just follow the pivot point down on a small angle for a few inches and its the only bolt in the door at that point.

Open the vent window and around the top hinge pull back the rubber to reveal a 7mm nut. Taking the nut off is easy but.. make sure you dont drop it or the washer. Once the hinge is out you can work the vent window up and out of the other pivot point.

Pull out the old rubber.

Here is where the job can become a PITA. The new rubber has two sharp corners and its important to get these properly in the corners for the rubber to sit well everywhere else. The best way to do it is to focus on the rearward / straight part of the new seal first. I found it impossible to get either corner forced up into the corner correctly either at the start or if I did the rest of the seal first.

To start get one corner of the seal as close as possible to the corner of the frame on the flat edge side, and work the flat edge until both corners are in place. After that it is easy. Work the rest of the rubber around the long arc facing forward. In the end it works out well.

Before finishing the arc part you need to put the 7mm nut back in place with the vent window. This is not as hard as it first seems when you have fat fingers facing a small space but again be careful not to lose the nut/washer.

Make sure you tighten up the clasp, test the window works well and put the door trim back on.

[echecsqueen]

Thanks for the tutorial. Tackling this today
Q

[cmcfaul]

I tried as well. the new rubber just would not fit. Took it to a pro and they struck out also. Ended pulling the rubber off another are and using it.

Good luck

Chris
73 E

[hughc]

Originally Posted by cmcfaul

I tried as well. the new rubber just would not fit. Took it to a pro and they struck out also. Ended pulling the rubber off another are and using it.

Good luck

Chris
73 E

Can you remember the name of the supplier of the rubbers you had problems with?¥

I'm having the same problem. I have '68 frames that i am installing on my sc.
The rubbers that i bought are URO and they are not quite right.
The base of the rubber, that fits into the frame, is too wide by roughly 2 mm and a little too thick and even though I've been able to force the rubbers in place i know it isnt right.
With careful use of an x-acto knife and sand paper I hope to be able to get the rubbers to fit without destroying them.
I wonder if other pelicans have used new rubbers (not URO) with success.
Thx

[Robert Adams]

Buy it from your local Porsche dealer. I heard so many stories of the off brands not fitting properly I just spent a few more bucks and got them from Porsche. No problems. The only exception was the front Targa seal which I got from Carsinc.com. I replaced all the rubber seals on my 73.5 and the vent window seal took about 15 minutes to install. I had mine all striped down, re-chromed & installed new corners while I was at it; the rubber seal was the easy part.
The above method of replacement while the frame is in the car should work pretty easily. I rubbed mine with Vinylex and an assist from a plastic 1.5' putty knife. The gasket sits easily in one side while the other is messaged or persuaded depending on the installer.
Good luck!

[UROParts]

Originally Posted by hughc

Can you remember the name of the supplier of the rubbers you had problems with?

I'm having the same problem. I have '68 frames that i am installing on my sc.

Hi Hugh, how long ago did you purchase the seals? Would you happen to still have the bags?

A couple years ago we received complaints about our Vent Window Seals 901 542 931 23 and 901 542 932 23 being difficult to install. Engineering analyzed current inventory and discovered that the rubber was too firm, so we scraped all inventory and made a running change to production. We began shipping the new version the Summer of 2019, and they are substantially softer material than the pre-2019 seals.

If anyone had issues with the pre-2019 version of Vent Window Seals 90154293123 / 90154293223 and would like warranty replacements (just pay postage if outside the USA), please forward your purchase details (date, retailer name, order number, order confirmation if possible, etc) to "sales at uro parts dot com" and mention the Pelican forum. We'll be happy to get you taken care of.

[hughc]

Originally Posted by UROParts

Hi Hugh, how long ago did you purchase the seals? Would you happen to still have the bags?

About a year and a half ago we received complaints about our Vent Window Gaskets 901 542 931 23 and 901 542 932 23 being difficult to install. Engineering analyzed current inventory and discovered that the rubber was too firm, so we scraped all inventory and made a running change to production. Our first production run of the updated gaskets was late Spring 2019, and they are substantially softer material than before.

If anyone had issues with the earlier version of Vent Window Gaskets 901 542 931 23 / 901 542 932 23 and would like warranty replacements, please forward your purchase details (date, retailer name, order number, order confirmation if possible, etc) to "sales at uro parts dot com" and mention the Pelican forum. We'll be happy to get you taken care of.

Thank you, I'll try to gather up the order/sales info.
Hugh