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Noel 09-13-2004 12:42 PM

OK, so why does Vaseline shine up Fuchs?
 
Ok, I've looked in the archives, but can't find the answer to this question.

How does Vaseline work to condition and shine up the anodized silver part of Fuchs wheels. And another question is why do the wheels get dull to begin with?

Thanks

Paulporsche 09-13-2004 03:19 PM

The vaseline was recommended by the factory, in the owner's manual, to enable the owner to protect the wheel and easily remove brake dust before it corroded the alloy. It doesn't seem to be a good idea, as it seems as though it might easily collect even more udesirable stuff, and I have never met anyone who actually does it.

Time to chime in here if you do.

This goes back to a time before various polymer based 'waxes' were available. Maybe carnauba would just melt from brake heat.

I think oxidation, UV, minerals in the water, and 'sandblasting' would all cause the anodized and painted portions to dull.

Shadetree930 09-13-2004 03:22 PM

I use Vaseline on my wheels. Works like magic. Don't know what makes it work but it does.

TC_SJ 09-13-2004 03:24 PM

Can you use it in chrome wheel ?

Thanks

Paulporsche 09-13-2004 03:26 PM

Prials,

Maybe I'll try it then. Do you buff it off, leave a film on, or what?

john walker's workshop 09-13-2004 03:39 PM

see the post a few days ago: "ruined my fuchs", or something like that. in fact, here it is.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/181847-ackk-i-wrecked-my-fuchs.html?highlight=fuchs

nostatic 09-13-2004 03:42 PM

VooDoo. If you swing a dead chicken over your head while you rub the vaseline, it works even better. And that jerk at work will come down with the measels.

teo 09-13-2004 03:44 PM

just did my fuchs w/vaseline tonite. look like new. amazing.

Paulporsche 09-13-2004 03:46 PM

nostatic,

Sothat's what jerk chicken is.

porschenut 09-13-2004 03:59 PM

The petroleum jelly goes on the WHOLE wheel, not just the silver part. The black centers benefit even more than the silver ring. I do it every time I wash the wheels and they always look fantastic.

Shadetree930 09-13-2004 04:04 PM

I let it sit for at least 24 hours. Then use paper towels to take it off. Takes less effort and gives better results but don't let it sit for 72 hours thinking more is better. My experience is that 24 seems to be optimum. Works very well on the entire wheel. Do be sure to clean the stuff off afterward in every nook and cranny or it really looks like crud when the brake dust starts to fly.

Paulporsche 09-13-2004 04:04 PM

OK. It's worth a try.

Freeman on that other post said to rub it in, wait an hour, and buff off.

imcarthur 09-13-2004 04:05 PM

It works wonders on both the silver & black sections.

My wheels were UGLY when the car arrived & a couple of washes & some vaseline & they now look very good.

And it's 'Porsche approved' in the owner's manual.

Ian

david.avery 09-13-2004 04:45 PM

I too want to know more of the science behind it... I talked to my dad, a retired metalurgist (no not lead and gold, stainless steels ;)) and he said it shouldn't really matter.

Truth is, it totally does. Rule #1, never take pics of a fuchs wheel for sale without givin 'er the vaseline rubdown :)

SLO-BOB 09-13-2004 05:00 PM

Not voo-doo, but true-true-long
 
Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
VooDoo. If you swing a dead chicken over your head while you rub the vaseline, it works even better. And that jerk at work will come down with the measels.
I wouldn't have believed it either. BUT-it does work. I foolishly sprayed Westley's Bleche-wite on my tires and some dripped down on the wheels. I let it soak in reeeel good. After scrubbing off the tires and wheels and letting them dry I saw, with horror, that the Bleche-wite had etched or otherwise removed something (what was the something?-you tell me-anodizing? wax? clear coat?) leaving the drip mark impression on the wheels. It's important to note that it was NOT a residue left behind. Now-know that I've been collecting various kinds of cars for 25+ years-I know my way around cars. I tried everything to correct the problem. Re-washing. Polishing lightly-don't want to remove more anodizing. POR. Nothing worked-it looked terrible-bad enough that I was going to send them to Al Reed. I posted my stupidity more to vent than find a solution. John kindly posted the vaseline solution. I knew his name from all the excellent advice he gave others, so I figured-what do I have to lose? I gave it a try and damned if it didn't CURE the problem-not just made it better. I have no idea on the hows or whys, but you can not tell there was ever a problem. I rubbed in the vaseline using my fingers. The marks gradually faded. They didn't dissappear immediately like when you cover a blemish with something wet only to have it come back when it dries. I did the entire wheel-black and silver. I then buffed it totally dry and clean with a clean cotton towel. The wheels look better than ever. I wish I took before and after pics. It was not a subtle problem. My wife noticed immediately and ripped me for being an idiot for wrecking our car.

Go to your garage right now with a jar of vaseline and have some fun.....er.....polishing the Fuchs. You will be amazed.

audi2.7t 09-13-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by david.avery
I too want to know more of the science behind it... I talked to my dad, a retired metalurgist (no not lead and gold, stainless steels ;)) and he said it shouldn't really matter.

Truth is, it totally does. Rule #1, never take pics of a fuchs wheel for sale without givin 'er the vaseline rubdown :)

But you're not actually touching the metal ,you're filling in the surface of the clearcoat with a reflective i.e. "wet look" compound ,put some vaseline on a tattoo ,same exact effect ,nice and shiny looking for a while.......kinda like that G27 crap on the infomercials ,all it does is fill in scratches with a coloured ,reflective compound that eventually washes right off....it will work on chrome to because that's just another kind of clearcoat......

david.avery 09-13-2004 06:29 PM

Hmm... I think there is something more... There's gotta be! I had white discolorations in the silver that would not come off... I washed em with the good wheel cleaner from Griot's (the safe stuff), and then tried to polish them out with some imperial hand glaze. Nothing.... still looked like crap, uneven hazy, etc. The vaseline worked, and has survived washes and brake dust buildup, and they still look good... that's why I think there is some sort of chemical reaction between the anodized surface and the goo... just my .02 of course.

And Audi2.7t, I had a '00 S4 with that same motor, what a great motor ;)

joefrantz 09-13-2004 06:42 PM

It also works well on faded black trim. Rub it on very sparingly. You shouldn't see any residue on the surface once you've finished the initial application. I don't really think that applying a thick layer and removing after a "soak in" period is any more effective. I haven't seen them in a while, but I'm pretty sure that the factory recommended process is just to rub & buff.
Joe

Klax 09-13-2004 07:01 PM

I think there is something more than just a shiny clearcoat as well. I recently did just my rear wheels when they were off the car. My black centers were pretty faded and I had some white discoloration on the silver rim. I spread the vaseline on thick and let it sit for 2 days, wiped it off with shop paper towels, and the discoloration was gone and the black centers looked good as new. I think the trick is to just put it on and leave it to do its magic, I don't think buffing does anything.

SLO-BOB 09-13-2004 07:05 PM

bottom line
 
Those who have tried it know it works. You can say it "fills in scratches and then washes off" or "it's voodoo", but I'll bet the sceptics simply haven't tried it. I haven't seen one post from someone who has tried it and have it not work.

This is a common thing among all car message boards-lotsa armchair comments without the actual hands on experience. My personal rule is this-If I have actually done it, and it works, I'll comment or post on it. If I haven't done it, but have an opinion-I keep it to myself until I have proven or disproven it on my own. It was a real treat sifting through the archives on the Swepco/synthetic/ dino debate-amazing how only synthetic works in some guys cars while sythetic won't work at all in others. I ordered swepco-I'll post actual results. Here it is one more time-I did the vaseline thing-just the other day. It worked. No-I didn't leave it wet. No-there is no residue left on the wheels. I polished it off completely. It is totally dry. The badness went away. No-it wasn't residue-the anodizing was damaged. Try it-you'll like it:).


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