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Deep 6s and flat 6 fuchs - difference (pic)

Hi all,

I just quickly put this image together for a friend and thought I would also post it here, just incase it helps.

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Thank you for that, good post!
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Thanks for the post.
I had a set of "deep" wheels on my '73T. Never knew what the difference was.
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Alan,

Rear, inside closeup pics would be helpful, too, as I suspect very few people are aware of the reinforcement ribs on the early, tube-type wheels ... that radiate out from the root of the spokes outwards towards the inner (back) side.
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Very interesting. I've been curious about the difference and now I know.
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Hi all,

No problem Warren. Here is a pic of a pair of deep 6s plus a picture of the inside of the rims. The fully polished deep 6, clearly shows why these rims get their name. Also the last picture shows the raised lip around the valve hole, flat 6s do not have this feature.

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Great info.

One query tho - do all flat sixes have a safety bead, or just the later ones? See the 1st pic for the ambiguity.
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I have some deep 6's with no safty bead is it a must to run tubes with these?? I just run around on the street, no track or autocross just normal every day driving
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Hi Randy,

Sorry for the confusion, all flat style 6s have a safty bead. Its the earlier (1969-some time within 1971) deep 6s which do not have this beading.

The flat 6 in the first picture does have the beading, but it is not very clear.
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The safety beads have no relationship to the use of tubes. The safety beads prevent the tire from leaving the bead in the event of a rapid deflation. this could occur with or without tubes. Deep 6s are fine without tubes.
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Scott is right about the safety bead humps and tubless tires. VW went to tubless tires in 1957, but didn't incorporate safety bead humps until 10 years later. Porsche was obviously a little slow, and just happened to upgrade both at the same time.
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great post.

Question: how does a deep 6 differ from a 911R wheel?
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I have more comparison pics between a deep 6 and 7R rim that I can post tomorrow when I am back in the office...

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Deep or flat fuchs

Hi

Here is an other good picture!



Hi Alan-UK

How are you ???

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That picture tells the tale.
Which type wheel is more valuable in terms of resale?
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Shaun,
The difference is only in the inner lip. From the mounting face out they are identical. All they did was stretch the inner rim.
I'll try to post a pic:



On the left is an early deep 6 sitting on 1" wood block.

Early deep 6s are worth more than late 6s in comparable condition.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Someday...
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It seems the deep Fuchs are more valuable even tho they are _less_ safe, and harder to clean....
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Here is a couple of pics of the 7R rim compared to its thinner 15 inch brothers....

4.5 then 5.5 then deep 6, then flat 6 and finally 7R

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Hi

Remember if you want to mix the front and rear size.....

Then use the early fuchs....the late(flat 6) don't match up with the early fuchs style.

The Fuchs "Star" are not the same size "early deep vs. late flat"

I will run my early 4.5's front and 5.5's or early 6's back when I find some for the back ......sold my late/flat 6's because the don't match up with my 4.5's

Alan.....Just married 2 month ago so all good

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