Spring Plate Bushes

[dimps8]

know there has been alot of discussion on this issue, but i'm looking for a difinitive answer. Does the replacement rubber bush on the inner spring plate need to be glued? I'm talking about the rubber ones from our host and not the neatrix. (sorry Chuck I would love yours, but the back pocket and need has determined the rubber ones).

[imcarthur]

I believe the answer is yes, use the glue (or better glue) but this was discussed a week or so ago here

I'm doing it in a month or two, so I'm gathering info . . .

Ian

[randywebb]

What would constitute a definitive answer?

[imcarthur]

Chuck Moreland wrote (in the thread above):

"Failure to glue the neatrix would likely result in the spring plate rotating in the neatrix bushing ID, creating a friction surface that slides instead of deforms. This will cause the rubber to wear faster than if it is glued and merely deforms. It will also increase the friction of the bushing.

That said, I suspect the glue is not adequate and breaks free for most installations."

So glue it is . . .

Ian

[dimps8]

Definitive = Majority/JW/Chuck,

Thanks Ian it does make sense. The original design was for the rubber to deform instead of acting as a beariing. I'm pretty sure neatrix would wear-out metal shafts and housings, as do most neoprene parts.

Glue it is.

[imcarthur]

Is there ever truly "a definitive answer" on ANY topic on Pelican?

Ian

[randywebb]

My recollection if that PAG has a description of how to do it in the workshop manual or a TSB. There are volumes of TSBs on these cars. BUT, is it critical? That was some time ago. And, is the friction noted above important relative to the shock damping?

To me, definitive means that a reasonable number of good experimental results match a mechanistic theory... but I'm a research scientist. Everyone has to set their own stds. And there is no use in belaboring a minor point of inconsequence....


And, yes, sometimes there are definitive answers posted (tho not commonly).

[dimps8]

definitive I guess not. I guess like all advise you do as you please. Ian i'm wondering about the lubrication in the image I posted above, on the outer surface of the inner bush. This seems to defeat the purpose of the bush deforming?

[imcarthur]

It's lubricant. The Weltmeister directions in the Pelican kit (that don't even mention the included super glue) say the lubricant is not necessary. It just makes it easier to reinstall the spring plate with the new bushings.

BTW Dickster posted a great blow-by-blow here

Ian