acid dipping in LA

[Porschekid962]

Ok so my project begins this weekend, Phase I strip it. After everything is out I plan on getting the tub/shell acid dipped to strip all the paint, gunk, undercoating and whatever else off and then have it powdercoated then begin bodwork on top of the powdercoat. Meaning, a little ruff up, prime and paint. All the nasty stuff will be done before the acid dip and powdercoat. So where do I go in SoCal to get a tub acid dipped? No its not going to happen for a few weeks but I want to call up and get some pricing. TIA, ryder

[italcarguy]

L&M Strippers
14232 Aetna St.
Van Nuys, CA 91401

(818) 983-1200

Ask for Jim or Ken

[Zeke]

There's place in Santa Ana as well. A lot of people think acid dipping is fine for industrial engine blocks and heads and some steel assemblies that are complicated.

In a car like a monocoque Porsche where you find many seams and some multiple pinch seams, acid gets in there and doesn't get completely out. Media blasting won't cause the car to rust. Acid will eliminate the last little bit of rust prevention and you will have to corrcet that 100% or face bubbles in the paint later on.

I would be in favor of dipping hoods and doors where you can spend some time on the seams and know where they all are. There are so many things going on around the rear suspension tube and at the rear of the doors that it's hard to understand. There are alot of hidden seams.

[Porschekid962]

Good call Zeke. Hood, fenders, bumpers, decklid will all be fg. Doors arent a problem to clean but I understand your point about the door sill area and rear suspension. I just really want a clean slate, I dont have a problem with grinding and chemical stripping but was just interesting in doing the whole thing at once and be done with it. I have heard lots and lots of rinsing is needed following a dip which I am fine with. Then some nice powdercoating as a base/sealant or epoxy primer as a nice base for the paint.


anthony, thanks for the number.


ryder, pics to come...

[scottb]

Ryder: Zeke's thoughts are well-taken. Do some research here on the board, or maybe even post a poll, and find out what others have done. Chemical dipping is harsh, and blasting leaves media in the nooks and crannies. So, neither is perfect. Of the two, it seems to me that media blasting is safer. My $.02.

Pics my good man, pics!

[mattr_914]

You could check out the media blasters they use on American Hot Rod. They are pretty close, I think.

[Rufblackbird]

Originally posted by Zeke
I would be in favor of dipping hoods and doors where you can spend some time on the seams and know where they all are. There are so many things going on around the rear suspension tube and at the rear of the doors that it's hard to understand. There are alot of hidden seams.

Absolutely. I was cutting the rear apart with the plasma cutter and was amazed at how many hidden seams and weird nooks and crannies there are.

[jabb]

You can start with a clean slate with a Media Blast with out having to dip the car. Here are some Pictures of a car that was blated with Baking Soda. Not your part of the country but an Example of what can be done with Media Blasting.
Media_Blast

[collier]

Here is a list that I had previously put together for some Midwest Dippers....

I put together a little list for everyone of some places that will dip/strip a car:

Indiana

www.redistripindy.com
4020 Millersville Rd.
Indianapolis IN. 46205
317.545.2088

Illinois

Redi-Strip Company
(630) 529-2442
100 Central Ave
Roselle, IL 60172

Redi-Strip Company Inc
(815) 727-1095
Joliet, IL 60431

Wisconsin

Redi-Strip Company
(414) 764-4770
7375 S 10th St
Oak Creek, WI 53154

Michigan

International Paint Stripping
15300 Oakwood Dr
Romulus, MI
(734) 942-0500

Mass

Metal Strip of New England
516 Franklin St
Worcester, MA 01604

Florida

Restoration Depot in Wauchula, FL
122 S 8th Ave.
Wauchula, Fl. 33873
(508) 754-2047

Pennsylvania

Pennsylvania Metal Cleaning Co.
200 17th St
Monaca, PA 15061-1969
(724) 728-5535


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[KevinP73]

I have to agree with those who choose media blasting. Acid dipping should be done when you have a lot of rust to deal with otherwise media blasting is just as efficient without all the negative points. Remember that acid dipping will remove coatings and sealents in areas such as inside rocker panels and the center tunnel where you won't be able to prep and recoat as well as you'd like to. Dipping may have been the hot ticket long ago but we have better ways of doing these things now days.
Maybe it would help you decide if you took some time to visit L&M and see exactly what acid dipping is really all about.

[scottb]

Ryder: Kevin's "da man" when it comes to this stuff. Go get it blasted....you and your car will be happier.

[KevinP73]

Thanks Scott,
Another thing to keep in mind Ryder, is that acid dipping or any chemical stripping is very toxic. Sometimes it's a "comfort issue" if you live with someone who is very "enviromentally conscious".

[project935]

collier ...
Add these guys to your list ... I used them years and years ago and it worked out well.

Tri State Metal Cleaning Inc
4725 Iroquois Ave
Erie, PA
(814) 898-3933

[Chuck Moreland]

I have no experience with dipping, and understand the concerns about non-accessible areas. But I will ask the quesiton - how do you think the factory protected non-accessible areas?


I suspect they didn't.

[Tim K]

I've been considering for a while going with acid dipping. I've heard a lot of the arguments against the process and all of them are valid. As Kevin said, when you've got a lot of rust, this may be the way to go.
My question is, what kind of rust protection was used for the earlier pre -galvanized cars? Is there anything to speak of in the boxed sections and between the seams and hem joints? Were these bodies not just assembled and then painted?

Tim K

[Tim K]

You beat me to it Chuck

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by Chuck Moreland
I have no experience with dipping, and understand the concerns about non-accessible areas. But I will ask the quesiton - how do you think the factory protected non-accessible areas?


I suspect they didn't.

During manufacturing each part is coated with weld thru primer. This allows the parts to be welded together and maintain an acceptable level of corrosion protection. Also the factory welded the parts together in an order that allowed them access to seams and joints that were not accessable later in the process. Dipping will clean these areas and you won't have access to them to reinstall seam sealer or corrosion priotection.

[TRE Cup]

soda blasting is the way to go. not hard on the metal and leaves a great surface for kevin to primer for you