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BEst everyday 911 for northeast US
I want to know what is a good suggestion for an everyday 911. I drive around 10,000 miles/year and my 84 factory turbo look is used about 2000 miles. My everyday car is coming due for a replacement and I'm exploring the idea of dropping the funds into a newer 911 for everyday use. I saw the recent posts on AWD vs RWD but I would think the AWD is a must for people in Pennsylvania. Does anyone live with a C4 for everyday use and do you really get any benefit in the snow? I'd prefer a RWD 911 if the AWD only covers me for 1" snow or less. Any beter everyday model (993 vs 996)? I would also like to use the car for DE events. Friends (BWM faithful) have told me to go with an older M3 as it is the best of both worlds. I prefer the 911 if it doesn't kill my budget as a daily driver. Thanks.
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Did the BMW faithful ever tell you what it's like to drive an M3 in anything as much as snow flurries? Who knows about the latest generation M3 but with the 2nd gen (not the E30 four pots) I've heard nothing but horror stories and my own experience in our old Z3 2.8 was that it would not move in the snow even with all season tires. I love BMW's but every one I've driven - from my old hot-rodded 2002 on up - can even be dangerous on merely wet roads if you aren't always paying attention. I would not want one for a winter car.
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I have a 1989 C4 and I drive it all year round. I also live on a steep hill in New England. And so far nothing, and I mean nothing, will stop that car. I don't even bother shovelling my driveway any more because the car can simply drive over and through whatever ice and snow and muck mother nature can conjure up. It understeers like a pig when I take it to AutoX and that sucks big time. But when the snow falls, my car is simply in-freaking-credible. You might say it is the "porsche" of AWD sportscars.
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Glad to hear the C4 is a great winter ride. How are the various years of C4's for reliability? I would consider the 996 C4 but have read about 996 reliability and I also worry about the added complexity (and repair cost) of the AWD.
By the way, my 12 yr old son would ratehr I bring home the Dakar 959. He is willing to forgo and education for a 959 in the garage.
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I'm also interested in this topic. Are any of the newer 911 C4's good in the occasional snow of up to a couple of inches? More than that and they are going to close school and I'll have a FWD Honda to use....
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Even a C2 on good winter rubber will be fine.
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If you want AWD, it's been discussed here that the earlier (a la 964) AWD's are more complex, and therefore more costly if there is a problem. Also, with more parts there's more to go wrong. Just food for AWD thought.
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Pennsylvania isn't inclement enough to dedicate having a 4wd sportscar all year for the 2-3 days that the roads may be bad. Sure is snows, but they are usually cleared within a few hours. I own an X5 that I use to tow my car, but if I didn't use if for this, I would buy a 5 series sedan. Just get some snow tires for a few months and your good. Of course I'm speaking in general terms. If you are living in rural, non populated area's, you may want 4wd. It snows here, but not that bad.
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The 964 C4 is by far the best C4 in the snow.
The 994 and 996 versions handle more like a C2, which is great fo an autocross, but it makes them a lot hairier in the wet and snow. Try to find a '92-'94 version if you can. These cars are bulletproof, so don't worry about all the stuff you hear from the scaredy-cats about thir complexity.
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