Friendly reminder......................

Gumba11 · 03-28-2005, 10:38 PM

Hey all,

This is a general comment. Not directed at anyone.

I thought I would post a couple of nasty photos here. I see more and more a lot of people that go out and buy these amazingly fast cars right out of the box and for some people they think it makes them instantly some kind of legendary GT racer, when in fact most people dont have a good understanding of vehicle dynamics, or worse yet just started driving. You dont need a ton of horsepower to get in trouble. I dont know what brought this on, I guess I was just bored and started thinking. I for one learn something new every time I drive my car on the track, and sometimes even on the street.

If you think you know it all, then you might not have any business owning a fast car like we here are so blessed to enjoy.

Just a reminder for the newbies out there and for the experienced as well. Keep the rubber side down and know your limits! These cars can kill you as fast as they bring you pleasure.

I would not want to see anyone I know, or dont know for that matter suffering this fate. Though he or she probably walked away from this, I bet it could have been avoided with a little common sense.

Just in one of those serious moods this eve.................C

adomakin · adomakin's Garage

ouch

masraum · 03-29-2005, 04:46 AM

Yep. I always wonder when I see kids under 18 in fast cars. It's a good thing lady luck favors the young.

Porsche_monkey · 03-29-2005, 05:03 AM

What is that in the bottom right corner of the first picture?

Wil Ferch · 06:38 AM

Front bumper from the inside...looking out....upside down......

Wil

EDIT...maybe even the side louvers of the rear rockers behind the rear wheels....notice that the rear bumper cap is "off"...the vent size seems too small for a Turbo-front...so I think this rear bumper assessment is even more possible...

sammyg2 · 03-29-2005, 07:40 AM

The best thing a person can do when they first get a Porsche is take it to a Driver's ed or AX and get instruction. Learning the limits and characteristics of the car is best done in a controlled environment, not on the street.

When I first took my 911 on the track I was amazed at how much the weight trasfer affected the handling. At first it was a hinderance, later it became an asset.
Natural instinct tells us to lift off the throttle when in trouble, many times just the opposite will get you out of that trouble or reduce the severity, or maybe just not add to the trouble. Not always though

Gumba11 · 03-29-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PBH
What is that in the bottom right corner of the first picture?

I agree with Wil, Front or rear airdam......

..............................................C

Joeaksa · 03-29-2005, 08:02 AM

Lived in Germany for many years and it takes from 6 months to 2 years to get a drivers license there. Motorcycle permit takes longer and you have to ride 2 years on a 500cc or smaller, then move up in stages to unlimited bikes. You have to have first aid training to boot as well as driving on snow, rain and in bad weather.

Its way past time that we stop pussyfooting around with drivers ed and start doing it right. The quality of the training has gone down the crapper in the last 10-15 years IMHO.

For instance, when I went to school we were taught that you moved in the left lane to pass slower traffic then pulled over to allow others to go past. Seems lately that everyone immediately goes in the left lane and drives whatever speed they wish, forcing everyone to pass "inside" which is a lot more dangerous.

We could do a lot better job in preparing our drivers for the road. Hope something is done about it and soon.

JoeA

Porsche_monkey · 03-29-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Joeaksa

For instance, when I went to school we were taught that you moved in the left lane to pass slower traffic then pulled over to allow others to go past. Seems lately that everyone immediately goes in the left lane and drives whatever speed they wish, forcing everyone to pass "inside" which is a lot more dangerous.

This is a result of too much traffic. People get into the habit of driving with all lanes clogged, and we end up with no "lane discipline" as they call it in the UK.

My visitors from the UK are always horrified when I pass slow moving drivers on the right.

Ontario has instituted mandatory drivers ed and graduated licensing for beginner drivers.

jpachard · 03-29-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Lived in Germany for many years and it takes from 6 months to 2 years to get a drivers license there. Motorcycle permit takes longer and you have to ride 2 years on a 500cc or smaller, then move up in stages to unlimited bikes. You have to have first aid training to boot as well as driving on snow, rain and in bad weather.

Its way past time that we stop pussyfooting around with drivers ed and start doing it right. The quality of the training has gone down the crapper in the last 10-15 years IMHO.

For instance, when I went to school we were taught that you moved in the left lane to pass slower traffic then pulled over to allow others to go past. Seems lately that everyone immediately goes in the left lane and drives whatever speed they wish, forcing everyone to pass "inside" which is a lot more dangerous.

We could do a lot better job in preparing our drivers for the road. Hope something is done about it and soon.

JoeA

Couldn't have said it better myself. In Ma$$. you don't even go on the highway during your test and it's been that way for 20 years. In fact, at the license office in Boston, you can go around the corner and someone will be selling the answers to that days "written" test. We lose 30-40K people a year on our roads and no politician will step up to the plate and fix this. Amazing.

James

Jim Richards · 03-29-2005, 09:40 AM

I can fix it.

Joeaksa · 03-29-2005, 09:45 AM

This is a result of too much traffic. People get into the habit of driving with all lanes clogged, and we end up with no "lane discipline" as they call it in the UK.

Agree with their being more traffic but many times there are 6-8 cars driving slowly in the left lane and the center and right lanes are open. Its just stupid to get on the highway and immediately go to the "passing lane" like people do these days. As well the damm cops do not ticket them for doing it!

Its illegal to pass on the right side in Germany, not sure about the UK. If you do it you will get a ticket and if there is no policeman around a citizen can do it. They just go down to the local police office with your plate number and file a complaint. You get the notice in the mail in a few weeks and you are screwed unless you have a witness.

JoeA

soup dragon · 03-29-2005, 11:53 AM

In the Uk we drive on the left and overtake on the right,if you try to overtake on the left you can get pulled over by the cops and fined.
We dont have "freeways" as in the Usa .

Porsche_monkey · 03-29-2005, 12:10 PM

I believe Shropshire has dual carriageways, at least through Telford.

soup dragon · 03-29-2005, 02:50 PM

Yep m8 quite a few,still same rules apply slower traffic on left overtaking on right.
I found the same problem on a recent trip to florida,6 lane carriageways and they were congested due to people driving side by side at the same speed crazy!
God help em if they had traffic islands

air-cool-me · 03-29-2005, 03:09 PM

"traffic islands "

what the hell are those?

Superman · 03-29-2005, 04:12 PM

It was fun pushing my '69 Beetle to near the limit, in a snowy mall parking lot. But there are cars in this world that we have no business pushing anywhere near its limits on public roads. The Porsche 911 comes to mind. Push a '69 bug to the limit and you're on a 35 mph corner doing 50 or 60. Push a 911 to its limit and you're in triple digits.