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Pure Monty Python....... The Norweigen Blue Parrot.....he's not dead, he's just shagged out after a long squawk A metaphor for attempting to prove something that's demonstrably not true. I am yet to see the rare and beautiful plummage of the Norweigen Blue in San Carlos. John, The weight of the complete beam, ready to ship is 5.5lbs. The price for an exchange beam is $248.80 The price for the DIY kit is $156.00 We are yet to establish a core charge for beams that are too distorted to be rebuilt. All parts are available now from Windrush. In due course I would also expect these will be listed in the Pelican catalogue. Atlporsche, I am not sure if this is going to prevent you from bending the transmission beam, do you have any idea why you continue to have that issue? Regards Hayden |
no...the trans isn't bending....LOL!!! I can't keep what crossbeams were used for what years straight...
I have the cast bit with the square rubber blocks...I'm looking for a replacement for it. I can't remember if the 4 studs moved mid 901 builds or not until the 915 builds...I'd like to switch to the 915 style (two bolts instead of 2 bolts and two more into the rubber blocks...) I just need a replacement for the silly rubber squares in my '67. sjd |
Does fit any 901 trans. also include the 911 trans. used in 1970-71?
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OK - I have a question about just the mounts.
Since it is well known that the torsional stress placed on the transmission tends to sometimes offer poor shifting, would it be OK to just replace the motor mounts at the tranny itself, or would it be best to replace all 4 motor mounts. I guess I wanted to know how much and what kind of stress would be placed on the engine if only the tranny mounts were replaced with solid ones, and not the motor mounts themselves. These little things seem to be priced pretty high! Thanks! |
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I am not sure if you are directing this question to me or not? I can only speculate, but I would think no significant additional stress would be placed on the engine/trans if at least one flexible mount remained. Maybe that's the next demon tweek! Price is a matter of perspective. At less than 2X the price of the O.E. mount that is manufactured in the 10's of thousands, I think the price of our specialty part is very keen. Regards Hayden |
One last quiery.... can I assume this is compatabe with the sportomatic gearbox?
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John,
Not certain, I am going to say almost certainly - by reviewing the various asselmblies in the PET, but not 100%. I believe the Sporto should have a 912 version, which is different in config, but not sure about hole spacing / general location geometry. Perhaps there is someone who can be certain? Regards Hayden |
I gotta get one of these!
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My race car is a 1969 911 E that came with a Sportomatic. I remember the tranny mount being different. I remember this because I had to find a regular trans mount to get my 5 speed 901 into the car.
I can't remember what exactly was different though. |
Thanks Chad.
Hayden, do you think that if I bought the kit, it would be a relatively easy process to fit it to my current cross member? What say I step up (like Chad) and officially "test" the official sportomatic version? :D |
Fishcop,
See if you can take a picture of your bar. I remember it being more of an arch or bow shape than the regular trans mount. I'm sure you could buy the weld on kit from Hayden and have a shop modify yours. Just a thought. |
John,
PET shows a 905.305.301.01 part number for the Sporto beam. In the illustration it looks the same design style as the one photographed under Chad's car - pressed metal ~ 2.5mm thick. PET also shows that it is attached using an M12 x 1.5 x 80 mm bolt, same as pre 1969 901 beams (same as Chad's) There is a part number change for the bolt in 1969, with no dimensional ID numbers, but that bolt 901.305.317.00 is the same one as used in / thru 1972, where the 915 beam had the removeable mounts. As we know the bolt for 1972 goes through the stack height of our SS Assembly, that is one question somewhat answered. The fact that the beam appears similar makes me think that - worse case, the plan view geometry of the Sporto beam is not the same - due to the different length of the bellhousing etc. I believe the front cover is same casting, with some machining details that are unique for switches etc (hence different part #) - therefore it might be safe to assume the vertical location is the same..... also beacause the shift tube goes into the tunnel etc. other stuff has dedicated positions that would make vertical change unlikely. Bottom line, if your part looks similar to the one in Chad's car, measure some numbers off it - especially the offset of the 4 bolt pattern on the trans to the 2 chassis bolts. I might actually have a '69 Sporto beam here, I have one that is not normal - and I dont think it is a 930 beam. The fab work is simple, any decent fab shop will be able to do it with the right care and attention to the drawing. I am off to Laguna for the weekend, so by the time you are up to read this I might be gone, in which case no new answers until I get back on Sunday night. I will email you the drawing now. Regards Hayden |
Considering the level of WEVO's product execution, I would have them fabricate the beam.
j.p. |
Does anyone know of a mount system for the 930? Does Wevo do the mod on the 930 cross member also?
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David,
Yes we do the same conversion to the 930 beam, looks the same, same price, same lead time. There is also a "Polygraphite" product available from Pelican that is covered elsewhere in a recent thread - it should work in a 930 beam and is an instant repair option. I cant comment on cost or performance comparison to the WEVO SS solution. Regards Hayden |
Hayden, do you think there would be a vibration difference between the polygraphite and wevo system on the tranny? I've got the wevo engine mounts but I'm a little concerned that having them on the transmission may transmit too much vibration into the driver compartment.
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David,
It is impossible for me to comment about the Polygraphite product. I have only seen photographs of the parts here on the forum. It is conceivable that the Polygraphite will transmit more vibration, depending upon the quality of the fit between all the molded and pressed metal components and the amount of pre-load on the elastomer components. But they may also be soft enough to accomodate any mis-match...... I know we have feedback from customers with SS mounts claiming less vibration than with worn O.E. mounts - this I attribute to a fresh, pre-load free engine / transmission installation. Relieving the pre-load on the engine cross-beam is an important step in achieving the best result. Not really an answer - but the best I can offer. Regards Hayden |
wevo candidate
After seeing that the last post here has been a couple of years, can anyone recommend "WEVO Semi-Solid Engine/Transmission Mounts" for street 911 vs. heavy duty oem motor mounts on a 901 Transmission?
Did you use Wevo tran cross bar too? 69 911T SWT w/ 3.2L Rgruppe |
umm.. I realized that Wevo doesn't sell the crossbar, rather if you have a 901 Tranny, they will take your crossbar and modify it so it getst the tranny.
I am still curious if anyone bought one of these, how would they compair it to stock. |
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