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bigrubberjeep 10-20-2005 11:09 PM

This question is for those of you that know.

Why don't more people "WANT" a C4 over a C2? I heard stuff about reliability but isnt there any advantage on a C4 over a C2 that would out weigh any "potential" reliability issues?

Did Porsche just not develop the AWD system well enough to make it fairly reliable?

twin plugged targa 10-21-2005 05:16 AM

I have just heard that the C2 has better handling characteristics and less weight making it more favourable!.
The C4 has too much understeer from what I hear.
I wpuld have thought the only advantage of a 964 c4 over C2 is in wet/icey conditions, and /or trying to lay excessive HP down to the ground.
I looked into doing a supercharged C4 about 4 yrs ago around the time that Excellence article came out, but it seems the turbo route is more widely reccomended.

Rgds Ben

ErVikingo 10-21-2005 05:31 AM

I had a similar idea for my next project but I came up with a better one. I want an early car (72 perhaps) with no rear wing and a 993 TT engine on it. It must have a really cold A/C and that's it.

Not sure I'll be able to right now though with the race car draining more funds and a new house being designed......

911teo 10-21-2005 05:38 AM

Doc is there a goal for the weight? Are you doing anything to the 3.6? Suspensions?

I love your cars...

Porsche Doc 10-21-2005 06:59 AM

I don't have a real target weight on this one.
Due to it be more of a street daily driver.
But taking off the the bumpers, skirts, engine lid and other stuff removed 200 lbs from it. I wll be adding a rear roll bar, so the weigth will go back up by 50 lbs.

Suspension wise. I have bilstine sport shocks, some H&R sport springs and F&R sway bars. Big Reds for brakes.

I going racing today for the weekend! YEA:cool:

Jeff964 10-21-2005 09:07 AM

what do you guys think? Its a photoshop pic of my C4.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1129914437.jpg

930LDR 10-21-2005 09:33 AM

I like it.

911teo 10-21-2005 09:35 AM

I like it too!

bento 10-21-2005 09:55 AM

I like it three.

db

DW SD 10-21-2005 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Porsche Doc
I don't have a real target weight on this one.
Due to it be more of a street daily driver.
But taking off the the bumpers, skirts, engine lid and other stuff removed 200 lbs from it. I wll be adding a rear roll bar, so the weigth will go back up by 50 lbs.

Suspension wise. I have bilstine sport shocks, some H&R sport springs and F&R sway bars. Big Reds for brakes.

I going racing today for the weekend! YEA:cool:

Will you be adding racing buckets and doing an RSR style rear seat / insulation delete, too? More weight savings there, too.

Cool car! Good luck and I like your innovative approach!
Will you be adding lumpier cams to the engine, too, a la RS / RSR themes of the past?

Doug

KobaltBlau 10-21-2005 10:18 AM

I realize this isn't your intention Porsche Doc,

but I would really like to see someone take a US C2 and do serious weight reduction on it while keeping it somewhat streetable, see what the weight looks like. I Think it would be hard to get much under 2600 and still be a good street car. maybe I am all washed up on this (wrong).

efhughes3 10-21-2005 06:20 PM

Jeff, your car looks good. What about an RS fixed wing/tail? I'm really liking the Carrera RS (964 version) look these days.

edesign45 10-21-2005 08:22 PM

photshop blue...
 
Hey Porsche Doc!
You really turn out some sharp RSR's and yes, it's hard to beat the White/Red color combo. Here is a White/Blue version you requested.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1129954913.jpg

dsfnctn 10-21-2005 09:21 PM

like the blue

Johnny B 10-21-2005 09:40 PM

Don as always looking fantastic

keep us posted on updates

how about white with viper green graphics and wheels as an option.

jpahemi 10-22-2005 01:51 AM

m325ix:
Did you get your shorties??
j.p.

edesign45 10-22-2005 09:25 AM

Jonny B
Here is White/Green. I did this last night but decided not to post it.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1130001725.jpg

Oracle 10-22-2005 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff964
what do you guys think? Its a photoshop pic of my C4.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1129914437.jpg

Wow!
I love that look on a C4, it makes it look really nice!!

Go for it!

-Jasper

Kevin Stewart 10-22-2005 09:25 PM

I few years ago in excellence there was a guy with a red c4 widebody that used some other front porsche front differentual and was suppposed to be extremely fast, do you guys remember the audi four wheel drive when it first came out driving around other race cars in the marbles in the corner to pass, I can only imagine the forward bit stability would be amazing, Kevin

Johnny B 10-23-2005 04:32 AM

Eric white and green looks great thanks

also C4 is way cooooooool


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