Where to get Porsche tool P 217?

[don hopkins]

The factory workshop manual says to use tools P205 and P217 to remove the heat exchanger. Pelican seems to have the eqivaluent of P205 but not P217. Where can I find P217?

[rlane]

Not sure what the P217 is but to remove the heat exchangers on most 911's (?up to 996's?) you need the long Allen for the barrel nuts (P205) and a good flex head 13 mm socket for the other nut on the flange. To reduce chances of snapping off the studs soak w/PB Blaster for a week, tap on the nuts with a cold chisel sevral times and then apply heat from a MAPP torch until the nuts are cherry red (about 2 minutes) then witha nice smooth move loosen them. Still likely to break off a stud or two if these have not been off in years.

[yelcab1]

This is what you need, and no other special tools.

[pwd72s]

a 13mm dizzy wrench helps...

[yelcab1]

Originally posted by pwd72s
a 13mm dizzy wrench helps...

I have one and never had to use it before. The long wrench in the picture is the deep offset 13/15mm sears wrench, which accomplishes the same thing as a dizzy wrench.

[don hopkins]

I am headed to Sears. Thanks.

[don hopkins]

I bought the offset wrench from Sears. It does not work.

[rlane]

There are several different offsets..and lengths...I like using a flexible head socket...get a metric set from Craftsman...you will find a LOT of uses for them

[don hopkins]

Thats my next move. Back to Sears again.

[Early_S_Man]

Don,

SIR Tools has a listing ... but it doesn't seem to be for heat exchanger removal!

http://www.sirtools.com/porsche_tools.htm

[don hopkins]

I saw that.

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by don hopkins
I bought the offset wrench from Sears. It does not work.

No it does not. Well not well anyhow. I think I made mine work, but the flex head socket did the trick to put it back on. I made my own allen wrench tool out of a allen wrench, and 8mm Chinese socket and JB weld.

[arrivederci]

Originally posted by VaSteve
No it does not. Well not well anyhow. I think I made mine work, but the flex head socket did the trick to put it back on. I made my own allen wrench tool out of a allen wrench, and 8mm Chinese socket and JB weld.

Same here Steve. I hear that B&B heat exchangers come with a very nice offset style wrench that helps get the 13mm hex wwnuts off, but I've never seen it. Someone mentioned it to me when I was installing a set of GHL headers (which doesn't have the access holes in it to get to the barrel nuts), so you replace all of the barrel nuts with the 13mm hex nuts and then painstakingly get them tight. Anyone know of this?

[sballard]

A good alternative for the factory long allen wrench are the T-handle allen wrench sets sold at Harbor Freight - you know the ones with the funky colored handles. They are dirt cheap of course. I have both and I think that the T-handles are easier to use. I recall that I needed to trim a bit of the plastic handle to get the wrench far enough in but that was no big deal.

Steve B

1972 911T

[don hopkins]

I found another alternative at Sears, a "stubby" wrench.