long shot question on B&B mufflers

[mb911]

Any one know the center to center of a B&B muffler for b&B headers?

Thanks

[Jeff Alton]

I can measure when I get home for you, I have one on my shop floor......

Cheers

[Bill Verburg]

That is a market that is ripe

[Jeff Alton]

Hence my eagerness to go home and measure.........

[mb911]

you guessed it. I have some B&B headers here but off a 993 so they don't bolt on the one side. I have them mounted very close to where they should be held by a jack etc(hookey I know but you gotta do what you gotta do) I have the muffler tacked and the tail pipes on (ruf style for impact bumper car) But want to verify the location. One thing also if you check can you tell me with the flanges on a straight surface do they sit flat? This one does not and the last B&B muffler I had here did not but Any help would be appreciated in verifing that

[Jeff Alton]

Ran out of time last night, will get to it later today after work.

Cheers

[mb911]

sounds good let me know

[einreb]

Originally posted by mb911
sounds good let me know

36 7/8" for the b&b's on my 964 3.6. the flange is not flat.

I want a quiet 'around town' version with room to cut in cats.

[Moses]

Originally posted by mb911
Any one know the center to center of a B&B muffler for b&B headers?

Thanks

Why not just make a 2 in 2 out universal crossflow and folks can have them welded in the way they like. That's what Fabspeed does. I love my Dynomax #17725 but it doesn't come in stainless.

[mb911]

Originally posted by einreb
36 7/8" for the b&b's on my 964 3.6. the flange is not flat.

I want a quiet 'around town' version with room to cut in cats.

gee bernie thats all you want! The issue you guys have is that the B&B headers are so dam far back on the car! It makes it hard to fit a bunch of stuff in there.

Moses,

Do you think That people want to get something they need to weld together? I was thinking that bolt on is easier for most folks

[PorscheGuy79]

Originally posted by mb911
gee bernie thats all you want! The issue you guys have is that the B&B headers are so dam far back on the car! It makes it hard to fit a bunch of stuff in there.

Moses,

Do you think That people want to get something they need to weld together? I was thinking that bolt on is easier for most folks

I am one of those people, I dont have a welder and there is no way im leaving my car with those Midas fuchers. A bolt on solution over a weld up would be easier for any DIYer any day of the week.

That said, I really want to get a welder soon and practice.

[Moses]

Originally posted by mb911

Moses,

Do you think That people want to get something they need to weld together? I was thinking that bolt on is easier for most folks

Bolt-on would be fantastic!

What sound are you looking for?

Quiet
Sport
Aggressive
Car-alarm activating
Neighbors call the police
Wake the dead

[mb911]

I am looking for driver car sound So this is what I came up with. I guess its time to show my hand

[JonT]

which headers are those? is that a 3.6?

[Moses]

NICE! I love the straight-back dual outs.

[mb911]

3.6 headers on my 3.0 I am trying to figure out how we are going to do side outlets with this design

[einreb]

Originally posted by mb911
gee bernie thats all you want! The issue you guys have is that the B&B headers are so dam far back on the car! It makes it hard to fit a bunch of stuff in there.

Moses,

Do you think That people want to get something they need to weld together? I was thinking that bolt on is easier for most folks

Ben,

What do you think of moving the 'collector' back on the b&b headers to allow for a cat? I know nothing about header/muffler design, so i dont know if that would be a huge no no.

It just seems like a huge pain in the ars to get a legit header/cat/exhaust setup for these 3.6's.

[mb911]

Bernie thats why I am coming out with 993 exchnagers to cats and mufflers shortly. And yes a big deal to move B&B's back probably a couple of hours each one and that coverts to 300 bucks in labor added to the cost of the B&B. Although a good idea!

[Jack Olsen]

Originally posted by mb911
Although a good idea!

I had the collectors on my B&B headers shortened to make room for a better muffler fit. The junction point was all that changed, really, since I kept the same length of same-diameter pipe coming out of the 3-1 reduction point.



(The cost to do it in my case was minimal. But then, look at those welds. )

[einreb]

Originally posted by mb911
Bernie thats why I am coming out with 993 exchnagers to cats and mufflers shortly. And yes a big deal to move B&B's back probably a couple of hours each one and that coverts to 300 bucks in labor added to the cost of the B&B. Although a good idea!

whats your layout for getting cats/muffler on the 993 headers? they also seem to go pretty far back and are angled in together, no?

you got a total $ guess for that? (pm me if you'd rather)

-bernie