First track day w/ 3.6 conversion!!

[Joeaksa]

Mario,

Stick with what Bill says and you will do fine.

What part of Guatamala are you in? I lived in Guatamala City for a while way back in the '80's. Enjoyed the area and people. Was not able to explore as much as I wanted to as it was a bit "rough" at that time in the areas but would love to return someday.

[Craig 930 RS]

If you are tracking a 3.6 Varioram car with stock 1976 brakes and are running at any sort of pace above beginner......you are quite frankly insane.

I mean this constructively - get better brakes. I'd recommend a C2 setup; Bill Verburg is a brake pad customer of mine and knows exactly how this is done.

[mmasse]

Thanks Craig. I am beginner, but not insane. Got to the track ones with these brakes but not twice. I am already looking for alternatives to upgrade.

I will probably go with 964/944t brake for now. I am trying to find a set of 993 calipers, but they are TOO expensive. Still not sure!!

[mmasse]

Joeaksa, I live in Guatemala City also. I arrived only 4 months ago and I am really enjoying it.

Thanks

[Bill Verburg]

C2 is too vague a referrence, 964 C2 will be marginal.

993C2 will be fine, as will 930, better is often bigger here.

[Craig 930 RS]

1990-1994 C2 brakes - this range is commonly called "C2". Takes a 930 sized pad. Pretty decent. Readily available.

993 is......993. Takes quite a bit bigger pad and is much hard to find these calipers used.

At any rate, what you have is flat out dangerous as-is.

[mmasse]

Bill, here is where I get confused. Fromyou site, I understood that 964 can used the same pads and rotors as the 930. Then why is that you are suggesting that 930 brakes would be fine, but 964s only marginal improvement?

Thanks for the clarification.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally posted by Craig911
1990-1994 C2 brakes - this range is commonly called "C2". Takes a 930 sized pad. Pretty decent. Readily available.

993 is......993. Takes quite a bit bigger pad and is much hard to find these calipers used.

At any rate, what you have is flat out dangerous as-is.

Yes, but the pad is NOT the problem, the rotors are.


The 993 calipers do not require the major machine operations that the 964 do.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally posted by mmasse
Bill, here is where I get confused. Fromyou site, I understood that 964 can used the same pads and rotors as the 930. Then why is that you are suggesting that 930 brakes would be fine, but 964s only marginal improvement?

Thanks for the clarification.

The issue w/ your car is the rotors and their ability to process heat.


Stock 283x20 & 290x20 are way too small for the weight and performanvce potential of your car

as are 298x28 & 290x24 964 rotors

930 are 304x32 & 309x28 and are going to be the minimum to reliable work on track

better would be 322x32 & 322x28 993RS rotors

[Bill Verburg]

PS the 993 calipers would go on 930 rotors

[mmasse]

Would $800 be a decent price for a set (frt & rear) of 993 calipers??

I am assuming another $600 for the rotors, is that ok?

Thanks again

[Bill Verburg]

Would $800 be a decent price for a set (frt & rear) of 993 calipers??

That's what I am asking for my powder coated and rebuilt set.

here's 1 front and 1 rear


the rear rotors are Pelican part # 911-352-041-08-M259 @ $90.50 ea.

the best front rotors are Pelican part #930-351-048-00-M136 for a right front @ $399.75 and $407.75 for a left front.

You would also need rotor hats and caliper adaptors in the front

Steve W/ @ Rennsport can supply somewhat cheaper(I think) rotors and the other parts as well,