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Mahler9th 05-29-2006 08:15 PM

Thanks for the info. Wevo make some nice parts-- it is hard to beat the quality and engineering. We are lucky to have companies like Wevo, SRP et cetera to make such nice parts.

My suspension is "fixed" and has rear coilovers. No need for fancy spring plates, but they look cool for a street/track car.

By the way Tyson, if you want some 993 multilink set up hints, check out Hank's car. I am pretty sure that is nearly 100% multi-link, and Mat set it up.

jpahemi 05-29-2006 08:51 PM

Tyson:
Did you replace the bannana arm pivot bushing (rubber)? How much shaping did you need for the bearing carrier to fit?
Thanks,
j.p.

Tyson Schmidt 05-29-2006 09:20 PM

Yes, I've already got Elephant Racing's sealed mono-ball cartridges on the semi-trailing arms.


Mike, who are Hank and Mat?

I'm always open to input, but I also have my own set-up preferences. Those are usually proprietary, so I'm not willing to share, and I bet Mat isn't either. Rear bump-steer in particular is a very personal thing.

Are you talking about Hank Watts? His '72 beast?

jpahemi 05-29-2006 09:23 PM

How much shaping did you need for the bearing carrier to fit?
Thanks,
j.p.

Tyson Schmidt 05-29-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpahemi
How much shaping did you need for the bearing carrier to fit?
Thanks,
j.p.


Not much. I just made sure to smooth out the torque tube and clean up any imperfections. Then just needed to knock down a few spots, and tapped them in lightly with a small plastic hammer.

don911 05-29-2006 09:32 PM

so these take the place of the spring plate and the rubber bushings? In other words, if I put these on, I don't need additional bearings and I can sell my polybronze bushings I had planned to install.

The Chef 05-29-2006 09:32 PM

Cool writeup. Here is a pic that i took from German Auto Fest a couple of years ago. Its really nice looking stuff. I would like to know how it feels on the track. Keep us updated.










http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1148966906.jpg

Tyson Schmidt 05-29-2006 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by don911
so these take the place of the spring plate and the rubber bushings? In other words, if I put these on, I don't need additional bearings and I can sell my polybronze bushings I had planned to install.

Yes, it includes all of it. you can sell your existing spring plates, bushings and covers.

Britain Smith 05-30-2006 01:39 PM

I also have the spring plates in my car. I have yet to drive my car with them, but I have riden in Haydens car and they felt awesome! Such a quality product and they included everything that you need to install them.

-Britain

http://www.britainsmith.com/Porsche/...3_0014_JPG.jpg

I was part of the first set that got made so I am not sure if the kits have been altered any since. I know that additional shims are included now for example.

http://www.britainsmith.com/Porsche/...3_0010_JPG.jpg

http://www.britainsmith.com/Porsche/...3_0013_JPG.jpg

Tyson Schmidt 05-30-2006 05:47 PM

Britain, there have been a few minor changes from the intial batches.

Mainly done to help them fit a wider range of chassis' that may be farther out of factory tolerances from accidents, or wear and tear.

don911 05-30-2006 08:29 PM

Tyson,
You're about to cost me some $. :) Are those bearings sealed up after installation? Are the bearings replaceable and how often?

Tyson Schmidt 05-30-2006 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by don911
Tyson,
You're about to cost me some $. :) Are those bearings sealed up after installation? Are the bearings replaceable and how often?

Yes, they are sealed. The outer bearing is a sealed bearing, and the inner one has a lip seal that is installed after the bearing is mounted in the carrier. So it's all weather-proof.

So far, no need for replacement on any of the kits out there, and no signs of any wear either. It seems sufficiently over-engineered in that regard.

Many of the original kits that were distributed for testing were used on track cars seeing very high loads.

lateapex911 05-30-2006 09:42 PM

I put the SPS system on my car last summer, and I really think they are the way to go.

At first, you suck a breath back when you hear the price.......but...quick math shows that they are right there where they should be when you compare apples to apples. A set of adjustable spring plates, and a proper T bar/spring plate bushing set up runs nearly the same money.

But..the WEVO stuff is just NASA grade. Hayden hit another home run with these. The build quality is just sick.

On mine I got the carrier very close, then froze it and it slipped right in. and no preload on mine either. Without the T bar in place, the springplate just falls through it's arc when you let go.

Tyson didn't mention the instruction manual. So much information is in there. This is a company that really has their s#!t together. And.......if you need tech help, just call Tyson!

Finally, I upgraded my tbars and dampers at the same time I installed these, and the Elephant polybronze setup for the front, with a Smart Racing sway bars, and I was worried it would be too stiff. Nope...not even close. Actually, I could go much stiffer. It rides effortlessy now.

don911 05-31-2006 10:46 AM

Talked to Glenn at pelican today. He said these are for pre G50 cars. Tyson is that correct?

If so, do you know if there are plans in the VERY near future for these spring plates for G50's. I will volunteer as a test vehicle if required. :)

Also, please make a replacement for the NLA G50 tranny mount assy that incorporates replaceable mounts. I'll test this unit as well.

randywebb 05-31-2006 11:50 AM

"A set of adjustable spring plates, and a proper T bar/spring plate bushing set up runs nearly the same money."

- Only true if you buy new spring plates and need quick adjustments. My used pair of late model (cams) stock plates cost very little. The rubber bushings are only $70. So, that's an order of magnitude... 10x in price.

I have no doubt they are a superior product, but regardless of relative cost, the absolute cost means I'll have to wait for Suspension, Phase II -- i.e. a few years.

CBRacerX 05-31-2006 12:17 PM

+2 on the G-50 Test Car list :)

They look great! Now you DO need to give us a thread on the 964 Oil tank - I have been very interested in doing that and the engine is out of the car at the moment...

lateapex911 05-31-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by randywebb
"A set of adjustable spring plates, and a proper T bar/spring plate bushing set up runs nearly the same money."

- Only true if you buy new spring plates and need quick adjustments. My used pair of late model (cams) stock plates cost very little. The rubber bushings are only $70. So, that's an order of magnitude... 10x in price.

I have no doubt they are a superior product, but regardless of relative cost, the absolute cost means I'll have to wait for Suspension, Phase II -- i.e. a few years.

Well, quite right Randy..I should have been specific that I was referencing the upgrades of equivilent performance and quality.

So that would be something with an easy adjustment, and anon rubber bushing. Something like Chucks stuff.

I think, with those considerations, and when you factor in a mechanics time, the WEVO stuff is actually the value proposition.

vash 06-01-2006 07:44 AM

dude! that is sweet, really sweet.

you should really get them to pay you with cash! :)

randywebb 06-01-2006 12:20 PM

I agree - if you don't DIY, then the price differerential is reduced, maybe to zero. I hope to put these on my car someday too....


Yeh - Oil tank thread -- I'll even start it for you Tyson.

jpahemi 06-01-2006 06:45 PM

Just got back from WEEEEEEVO test drive; these plates are amazing, smoother ride and no additonal road harmonics. I need to find a way to cap the torson bar entrance to avoid debris build up. The cotter pin could hold the cap on very nicely.
j.p.


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