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Are K&N filters good?
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12-01-2006, 04:22 AM
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A terrific question, just in time !
Has not been discussed previously here on the forum. We need to start a thorough debate! 
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12-01-2006, 04:33 AM
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Oh no, not again.........
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12-01-2006, 04:43 AM
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Oh yes!
And while we are at it - are SW chips any good ? And what oil is the best ?
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12-01-2006, 04:51 AM
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Ok, ok, then we might as well add:
Can I use my P-car to pull a trailer?
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I have a Cool Collar.
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12-01-2006, 06:51 AM
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To end the debate before it starts: NO
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12-01-2006, 09:03 AM
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K&N with oil or without?
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12-01-2006, 09:11 AM
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C'mon, somebody give the poor newbie a link...I can't find it. Gunter, bottom line is that K&N delivers no more power than the factory paper filter, and it may allow larger particles through...oiled or not.
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12-01-2006, 09:15 AM
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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12-01-2006, 10:10 AM
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Wow, rough crowd! Always a controversial topic. Consensus appears to be no improvement in HP or performance and lots of concern over more contamination vs stock filters. If K&N's are so bad, why has the company been so successful? I drank the cool-aid - my personal choice!
Here's my experience, take it for what it's worth. I'm running a K&N filter in a stock airbox (no cone) Hwy MPG improvement with K&N filter
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8-10% hp gain
12-14% torque gain 4-6% seat of the pants feel gain Who can argue with those results!
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12-01-2006, 11:32 AM
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It depends on how frequently you change your oil, what your car usage is like and where you are driving it.
I know several or most of the racers out there are running K&N, ITG or no filters at all. So take what everyone says with a grain of salt. If they work for you then they are good. If they don't then you have answered your own question. Personally, not that you care. But I run them on my car (Full blown race car) and have for 7 years with out any problems. When I tear my motors down, they look great inside.. Go figure.
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12-01-2006, 11:57 AM
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We're not a tough crowd, he just has incredible timing in posting this question. So that you're in on the joke, here's the link that started this dustup recently:Out of control K&N Thread
It's a long read, but hard to put down. Lots of helpful pictures too.
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12-01-2006, 01:54 PM
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I like it because I can never snap the air box close. I don't have big paws either.
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12-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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David, This is all your fault. You had to ask...
Bottom line is no gain from a K&N so why spend the $$? I have one on my car that came with the new motor and for my limited driving and always garaged ride it's not worth swapping out. 6 a one, half dozen of the ahhhh...who cares! LOL "Why can't we all just get a Wong"
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12-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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Bottom line, if you decide to install a better flowing inlet to the MAF sensor (lets you cram more air in), then you just about have to run a K&N cone filter, or a similar type aftermarket filter. I don't know of anyone who manufactures a paper, pleated cone filter. Those claims for more power are probably based a similar inlet modification in conjunction to using a K&N filter, (because there is nothing else that would fit). Stock, I see no benefit.
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12-01-2006, 02:36 PM
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K&N Armor All Motormeister Any non-boutique wax Oil that sells for less than $8 quart V8's Anything other than SSI's or perfectly equal length headers and most recently, $50 Rustoleum paint jobs, etc. Please feel free to add to the list. I guess this could be a whole new thread...
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