Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 676
AFM issue? How to remedy?

I got my 86 3.2 back from the wrench for a few maintenance items including mix adjustment. He reported that while attempting to adjust the mix via the bypass screw on the AFM, he could not get any change in the mix. The reading is 4% and he was shooting for .8% or so I assume.

I have opened the AFM to retrace the wiper but that's it.

The DME is a rebuilt 24 pin replacement that the PO had put in and it is at the standard setting on the fuel quality switch. It is not 'chipped' [I looked].

Would it make sense to see this as a simple tightening of the spring in the AFM to lean out to the normal area of 1% or so? Then, have the wrench do a final adjustment. Is this a bad idea? He says that the O2 sensor is compensating for the base rich condition, so should I not mess with it?

thx
todd
86 coupe


Last edited by CrossT; 10-24-2006 at 02:33 PM..
Old 10-24-2006, 02:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
DW SD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Encinitas (San Diego CA)
Posts: 4,495
Some more info may be helpful.

Is the O2 sensor new?

Is the idle switch closed (so the DME knows it should be in idle mode)?

Steve Wong's website :www.911chips.com has a good overview of setting the base idle mixture. Knowing the process may be helpful in discussion with your wrench.

Doug
__________________
1971 RSR - interpretation
Old 10-26-2006, 05:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Steve W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: PV Estates, CA
Posts: 2,404
Garage
Hopefully your wrench tried to adjust the mixture with the O2 sensor disconnected. If the idle CO is 4% that is very rich. I believe you are at a high elevation correct? - if so check for activation of the altitude sensor. I'd also check, fuel pressure regulator and pressure, head temp sensor, and bad or leaky fuel injectors.
Old 10-26-2006, 06:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
T77911S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MYR S.C.
Posts: 17,321
i changed the spring on a 280z a long time ago, ran great after that.
i would only do it as a last last last resort. the 280 had a LOT of miles on it. maybe i was compensating for something else wrong or maybe the high mileage?
__________________
86 930 94kmiles [__] RUNNING:[__] NOT RUNNING: ____77 911S widebody: SOLD
88 BMW 325is 200K+ SOLD
03 BMW 330CI 220K:: [__] RUNNING: [__] NOT RUNNING:
01 suburban 330K:: [__] RUNNING: [__] NOT RUNNING:
RACE CAR:: sold
Old 10-27-2006, 09:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
don911's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,884
Garage
I had a similar issue mixture issue with my AFM once. However, my mixture was so bad the car would not run very well. I assume yours is running fine even with the rich mixture so this might not be the problem.

Anyway, mine turned out to be the contacts on the connector that goes into the afm. The connector was pushed in all the way but two of the actual contacts pushed back and were not making contact.
It's an easy check. Remove your connector and see if the contacts are all up to the edge of the connector. or pull the rubber boot back and make sure the contacts are in all the way.

Now, everytime I remove the connector, I pull back the rubber boot and make sure all the contacts are in all the way.
__________________
Don
24 Cayman GTS - GT Silver
23 Cayman GTS - Arctic Grey - Sold
97 993 Coupe - Arctic/Black - Sold
13 991 Coupe - Platinum/Black - Sold, 87 911 Coupe - Venetian Blue
Old 10-27-2006, 11:11 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 676
Thanks guys

The car does run fine and it passed smog recently.

The O2 sensor is ~30K.

The idle position microswitch was tested [by me] a few years ago and it was good. I should test again. I can hear it engage - so I think that's good.

Good thought on the connector. I'll check that.

The elevation here is Tucson is about 2,500. I once found by altitude sensor wiring had been disconnected by moving the seat back and forth. So, I'll check that too. Thanks.

The wrench is exclusively a Porsche mech. He recently had the engine out and I had him check for vac leaks, and there were 'none'

Maybe I'll reconnect the brown wire on the DME harness [ ? ] since it is a CA car. Bad idea? I don't think I want to mess with the fuel quality switch.

So, I keep comong back to the AFM spring. The car has almost 190k on it so I suppose the spring could have stretched.

thanks again
todd
86 coupe

Old 10-28-2006, 03:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:16 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.