New Improved Windshield Gasket/Seal??

[amersbell]

John (and all others)

Took the car to Safelite. Installed the new front glass without any problems. I explained all I had read to installers on the rear. Then they proceeded to tear the crap out of the seal. Ruined it. They continued trying to install it even after they had torn it in three places, trying to rope it in. Had to buy a new seal. After several complaints the Safelite regional manager agreed to pay for the seal. Took it to a glass company that has been in business for 25 years and has had the same people working there for years. Installed the rear glass in about 1 hour. $ 65.00 bucks. Great job. STAY AWAY FROM SAFELITE!!!!!!!!

[rw7810]

Originally Posted by milt

Just finished putting the metal trim in the seal in the rubber on the stand. In the next few minutes (yeah, right ) I'm going to install the glass and seal in the car. I'm getting ready to install my rope.

What's this flap covering channel that body lip fits into? I've put a few of these things in VW's and I even did a Targa rear glass by myself once (once, never again). I don't remember the flap. I'm guessing it's there to help hold the rope in place and then when you pull the rope, the two pieces change places with each other leaving the flap up against the lip on the outside and the inside part of the channel on the inside of the body lip where it's supposed to go. (Follow that? )

Just never seen the flap. Anyone install a windshield recently? This is an OEM seal from Pelican.

BTW, I typed in a few search term and read the appropriate threads from 4 pages of results. So, please don't tell me this is obvious.

Milt / Jamie

Have we ever figured out what that little extra flap is on the inside of the seal?? It appears that it might be meant to seal on the body lip on the opposite side of the big flap. Did you guys leave it tucked in and under the big flap after you installed cord or bring it out and over the big flap ?? Anybody ??

[911rudy]

One thing I learned is that if you dont keep the bottom of the new windshield from sitting on the car lip the new gasket will have gaps at the upper corners. You can use a piece of vinyl screen window molding inside the bottom of the gasket to keep it from being too far down on the metal lip. Once it is in place you cannot slide the whole thing up to elimminate the gap.

[RexNoctu]

What do you do about gaps in the lower corners? I have a new seal put in 2 months ago and noticed the gaps. The installer told that it just needed a couple of really warm days to finally settle in. Well there haven’t been any super hot days, but there have been a couple in the 80’s and the gaps have not changed at all as far as I can tell.

[Daviboy]

I have just ordered an OEM front windshield seal. as the original is pretty badly cracked. My question is how to remove the windshield in the first place?

[w21055]

Originally Posted by Daviboy

I have just ordered an OEM front windshield seal. as the original is pretty badly cracked. My question is how to remove the windshield in the first place?

You can take a razor and cut the old gasket from inside or outside of the car. Be careful not to cut to far if you do it inside or you could cut the headlner. Once you cut the inside lip of the gasket, the windshield will just push out. I think it is easier to cut the outside by cutting to the trim and pulling the old cut gasket out with the trim still in it so you don't bend it.


Phillip

[911pcars]

Many shops use glass from China, US or other which may not be as hard, may be thicker and/or may not fit as well as OEM glass, but it's cheaper (for the shop).

Most installs will need some sealer in the corners to fill in gaps in the hand built car (also depends on glass and seal manuf.).

Sherwood

[Daviboy]

Aaarrrggghhh just spent a frustrating two hours trying to install the windshield. I got the seal and the trim strip in but am battling to get the windshield in. The rope trick is not working for me at all. How far into the seal did you guys push the rope? I am now relaxing with a beer as I was at my wits end on a 30 degree day and was about to smash something.....

[trconway]

I forget where I saw the video but the guy doing the installation said he used parachute cord? to put into the chanel in the rubber seal. It was thick cord and he said as you pull it out the cord pulls the lip in the seal onto the frame. Made sense
and looked reasonably easy as he did it. Sorry I can't be more specific about
the cord.

Tom in NJ

[Daviboy]

Woohoo just went out and slid that windshield right in there. Amazing what a nights sleep can do. I was trying to out the cord in the wrong place, went out this morning saw where I had gone wrong, put two cords in centred the shield and started pulling the cord, seal lip pulled in and over the frame lip no problems. Did not even need to use the second cord. There are no gaps anywhere and the seal is tight and right I am so stoked, after 3 hours yesterday battling it took 15 minutes today....

[tadel001]

I am about to reinstall my front windshield and rear window on my 76 911s coupe. I have the seal on the window and the metal trim in place. When I put the window on the car, it seems bigger than the openning. I can't seem to get the window to slide into the spot. Is it supposed to be tight to get it into position? Are there any tricks? Would the seal be screwed up if it seems too big?

[bdisco]

I bought the Rear Windshield Trim Clip from our host, my clip went MIA, the gap is wider then the clip. I've got a piece of black duct tape holding down the trim not really noticeable but still kind of redneck. Anyone else have this problem? Fix?

Pelican Parts - Product Information: 911-541-921-01-70K-M260

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by tadel001

I am about to reinstall my front windshield and rear window on my 76 911s coupe. I have the seal on the window and the metal trim in place. When I put the window on the car, it seems bigger than the openning. I can't seem to get the window to slide into the spot. Is it supposed to be tight to get it into position? Are there any tricks? Would the seal be screwed up if it seems too big?

I'm assuming you're aware that the inner lip of the seal is pulled over the metal edge and into the interior with a string, yes? Just checking.

There's always the possibility you have an incorrect piece of glass or seal. Did you perform a trial fit of each separately into the opening?

There is archival info on the basic installation process and tips.

Hope this helps,
Sherwood

[ossiblue]

First, follow Sherwood's suggestions and double check the glass and seals.

Are you having the same problem with both windshields--front and rear? The rear has to be placed in the opening top first so the windshield fits under the overhang.

The windshields will seem to be too large, until you start to rope them in. Use lost of lube and an assistant to put pressure on the outer side (firmly but carefully). Maybe what you describe is normal. Pics would help, if possible.

[tadel001]

The windshield and rear window are the original. The metal trim is the original. New seals from our host. It isn't excessively large. It seems to be just slightly too big. I remember sliding it under the top first and the bottom was not in the window seat. A few mm overhung. I guess a little pressue to get it in place?

Thanks,

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by tadel001

The windshield and rear window are the original. The metal trim is the original. New seals from our host. It isn't excessively large. It seems to be just slightly too big. I remember sliding it under the top first and the bottom was not in the window seat. A few mm overhung. I guess a little pressue to get it in place?

Thanks,

Yes, steady but firm pressure--a bit up and in-- will seat the bottom while roping from inside. Be sure to lube the groove in the seal, and even the metal lip with glycerin or dish soap. Sounds like you're ready to go.