I need paint/part number experts - Page 2

BMAN · 05-25-2007, 02:07 AM

I'm having the same problem as you, I can't find the paint code either. Are colors look very similar. I'm working on trying to find the code, If I get it I'll let you know.

imaircooled · 05-25-2007, 04:45 AM

Bman,

Nice car. I like the interior color too. I'm not sure about your car because it's newer than mine but, if you look inside the driver's door there is a plate...or at least there is on mine. The plate says Made in Western Germany and then it says Kunstharzlack....but, below that it shows what I think is the paint code. I'm still waiting to see for sure. In the picture your car looks like mine except it with maybe a little more blue mixed in the paint. Hope this helps.

Chris

imaircooled · 05-26-2007, 06:49 PM

I've found the original owner of my Targa. He will be contacting me next week so I'm excited about asking him about the car. Does anyone know about the paint code that I listed? 624 9-3. I'll post details of my conversation with the original owner after I talk to him.

Thanks again,
Chris

Porscott · 05-26-2007, 11:57 PM

If it helps, my reference book says that in 1972 a special order paint called Beige Grey is refered to with the code 622.

imaircooled · 05-27-2007, 07:23 AM

That may help. You are the second person, I think, that has told me that code was in or around grey, beige shade of colors. I'm hoping the original owner will also help me out.

Thanks again,
Chris

imaircooled · 06-05-2007, 08:36 AM

Still waiting to hear back from the original owner. Might be vacation time for him and his family. Anyone else know about these paint codes?

Thanks again,
Chris

bkreigsr · 10:35 AM

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Chris, I think you can add "Carrera Sport Wheel" to your list of options. Those fat wheels are rare birds.

Bill K

imaircooled · 06-05-2007, 10:41 AM

Bill,

I do like that wheel. By fat do you mean how thick the steering wheel is? It's really comfortable to drive. Thanks for the info. I didn't think they were rare....I've seen them on a lot of cars. Maybe rare for a 74?

Thanks,
Chris

bkreigsr · 06-05-2007, 10:57 AM

If the circumfrence of your grip is around 4 inches, you've got a special wheel. Another tell-tale sign is the length of the bottom spoke below the pad. Yours looks like the correct longer spoke.

What you are seeing on other cars is the everyday 3 spoke Carrera wheel - thinner grip, the spoke dimensions are a bit different, as is the placment of the horn pad in relation to the outer rim.

Bill K

imaircooled · 06-05-2007, 05:40 PM

Bill,

I agree. The steering wheel grip is 4 inches around. Thanks for the information. I think the only way I would have seen the difference is if I'd seen the two different wheels side by side. Thanks again for the information.

Chris

BMAN · 06-06-2007, 02:46 AM

After speaking with Porsche and was told I wont be able to find the paint code in the car due to custom paint match I told them no way Porsche would not put the code somewhere in the vehicle.

I was right, thanks to one of the members of the forum that told me where to look. Pull your carpet up on the right fender and you will see the paint code on the sticker.

javadog · 06-06-2007, 04:38 AM

Folks, there are two types of "paint to sample." What BMAN has is a color that was a factory color (Slate Blue) at some point; it just wasn't a standard or optional color in the year his car was built. I have a book that shows it available in 1983 and 1984. So, it has a paint code number like all the standard and optional colors over the years and a paint supplier could easily mix that color, since it will show up in their database.

The other kind of "paint to sample" is a little harder to deal with. If Porsche matched a customer's color sample, they won't have created a code and a formula for it that was passed on to the paint suppliers. Sorry, but they won't create a "code" for just one car.

The good news is, it doesn't matter anyway. Your cars aren't likely to be exactly the same color as the day they left the factory. Paints change, over time. They fade a little. The clearcoat changes. That's just the way it is. If you had a can of the exact paint your car was painted with, it may be slightly off compared to the aged paint that is now on your car. In addition, paints have changed over the years, due to incessant government meddling. Glasurit, the supplier often used back then has completely different paint "systems" now. It's not the same stuff and that does make a difference.

A good body shop will use the paint formula as just a starting point. They'll compare it to the car and then add tinting colors to get it closer. It's a bit of an art. Some colors may take a lot of time to get right. Take off your gas flap door, take it to a good paint mixing guy and have him match it for you. Then write down the formula he used and you'll have your "code."

JR

imaircooled · 06-06-2007, 10:10 AM

BMAN,

That's great! You found your color code. I'll try the same and see if I have a sticker there too. Your color code 661 9 3 is like the code I found in the owner's manual. Mine was 624 9 3. Maybe my sticker will also tell the name.

Javadog,

My paint could very well be from another year. I liked the thought of having a Paint to Sample color...but, I'd rather have a code so the car could be painted the original color and not something matched even though you are right that a good body shop could match it.

Thanks for the info,
Chris

javadog · 06-06-2007, 11:02 AM

Chris,

624 9 3 does sound like a standard Porsche color code, although I can't find it. I've looked at the 356 colors, the early 911 colors and those for the 914 and nowhere do I see the 624 used as a code. I also don't see Steel Grey, although there was a Steel Blue Metallic in 1974, code 631.

JR

imaircooled · 06-06-2007, 11:50 AM

JR,

That code is inline with other codes that I've heard about. Do you think it could be a Volkswagen or Audi code? I have no idea...just wondering if they had codes similar to Porsche's codes.

Thanks for taking the time to help out.

Chris

javadog · 06-06-2007, 12:15 PM

Chris,

Anything is possible, though that 3 digit numeric format doesn't match the format that Audi or VW used. Porsche even changed their color code fomat several times and used different formats for different models and sometimes different formats for the different body plants. They also use more than one code for the same color, year and model of car, so it's hard to say anything definitive. I've searched a paint database using both the code 624 and the color name and haven't found anything.

JR

imaircooled · 06-06-2007, 06:48 PM

BMAN,
I don't think I have that same sticker on the inside of the right fender. I guess they did it differently in 1974.

JR,
I think I was told a while back that the color of my car was Anthracite. There sure are a lot of different grays and silvers.

Thanks for your help,
Chris

Mitch Leland · Mitch Leland's Garage

Chris,

I was obsessed to find my paint color as I also had the L999, "Paint to Sample". I've contacted Porsche of North America, I've paid for and received Porsche's Certificate of Authenticity, we even tried to run down the records of the dealer who sold the car. Zip, nada, no way...

I've cooled my jets, I have had the paint matched just like JR's reply and will leave it at that... I agree it shouldn't be that difficult, but it appears that you can't get there from here.

See ya,

imaircooled · 06-07-2007, 09:42 AM

Mitch,

I'm sure that a good painter could match the color. I'm hoping that the original owner that I've tracked down will know a little something about it. We'll see. I'll post it here if he actually happens to remember what the color is or the story about it.
Thanks,

Chris

djpateman · 06-08-2007, 07:06 AM

These are the 6xx series codes I have found
610 Dolphin Gray
615 Slate Grey
620 White (Light) Gray
621 Cloudy Gray (Fortuna)
622 Beige (Oxford) Gray
624 ?
631 Steel Blue Metallic
661 Slate Blue Metallic
693 Grey Silver

These are from the three numerical digit code list. Porsche sure has used a lot of code styles over the years, and trying to cross-reference them is sure a PITA. All the sites I have found have incomplete and error filled data.

Does anyone know how to decode the paint manufacturer?
624 9 3 is supposed to be paint code 624, body constructor 9 and paint manufacturer 3