I need paint/part number experts

imaircooled · 05-19-2007, 09:25 AM

I've been trying to find out if my car is the original color for some time. I found a sheet of paper in all the paperwork with my car and it talks about the options for the car. It lists the "K-15" package with alloy wheels, tinted windows, intermittent wipers etc. It also says "Paint (Color to Sample)" = $580.00 and then it says Paint Part No. 911-095-303 80/624 or G24....not sure if the last number is 624 or G24. Any help would be great.

Chris

imaircooled · 05-20-2007, 05:08 AM

How about now?

imaircooled · 05-20-2007, 05:04 PM

Everyone back from the weekend? I still need some help from one of you code/part number masters. Thanks again.
Chris

djpateman · 05-20-2007, 05:12 PM

There is a part # 911 095 903 80 624 but it does not include a color. The 303 part # is not in my catalog from 1986. I have not found any other info on that paint in my paint code research as yet.

imaircooled · 05-21-2007, 04:24 AM

Thanks dj. I'm really not sure what the part number is for. I always thought paint numbers for 4 or 5 digits. If it's a "paint (color to sample)" I'm not sure how I would find out that it's the original color. Thanks again for your help. I'll keep looking.

Chris

imaircooled · 05-21-2007, 03:23 PM

How about the Monday night part number people?

Fishcop · Fishcop's Garage

I had a look through my Paternie "Red Book" and can't find any of the codes you've listed. The colour code is usually a 3 or 4 digit code and using 624, I get nothing.

I'm not sure where the colour codes are on your later car, but have a search for a sticker or plaque in the door jambs or trunk.

Sorry I couldn't help more.

c019740 · 05-21-2007, 05:23 PM

For a 74 Targa, I dont belive you have an original color. '74 came in standard colors of light yellow, sahara beige, orange, guards red, peru red, mexico blue, lime green, grand prix white, bitter chocolate.

Special Colors were black, signal orange, aubergine, magenta, royal purple, bahama blue, jade green, irish green, olive, rose red, birch green, gulf blue.

Special Metallic colors were Salmon (thats what I have), blue, gemini blue, ice green, emerald green, silver, copper brown and gazelle.

You have a nice color none the less and it appears to be a Porsche Color, for what year I dont know.

HarryD · 05-21-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by imaircooled
... It also says "Paint (Color to Sample)" = $580.00 and then it says Paint Part No. 911-095-303 80/624 or G24....not sure if the last number is 624 or G24. Any help would be great.

Chris,

You have a Custom color. The factory has always offered an option to get your car painted to match anything.

Rich Lambert · Rich Lambert's Garage

I believe "color to sample" means just that...a custom color from a customer sample. You've probably got a one of a kind. Pretty cool till you want to do a touch up.

imaircooled · 05-22-2007, 05:09 AM

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I had a look through my Paternie "Red Book" and can't find any of the codes you've listed.

Fishcop, Thanks for looking. Seems like I have a custom matched color. I wonder what the part number I listed is?

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You have a nice color none the less and it appears to be a Porsche Color, for what year I dont know.

c019740, You could be correct. I'll keep looking at other year colors at car shows that I attend. Thanks for the help.

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You have a Custom color.

HarryD, The more I look through my paperwork the more I think you and Rich are correct. Thanks for the help.

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I believe "color to sample" means just that...a custom color from a customer sample. You've probably got a one of a kind. Pretty cool till you want to do a touch up.

Rich, Thanks for the help. I have a paint code somewhere. I just haven't found it yet. I'll keep looking...because it's had a couple rock chips in the front since I had it painted in 1995.

Thanks again people,
Chris

djpateman · 05-22-2007, 05:57 AM

Chris, I have done a complete (AFAIK) list of paints for the 914, and that has taken some 20 years. I have been trying to work on the 911 as well because some of them cross over. Also, with the custom colors things can get interesting. 914's have two custom codes, 98 & 99, where 98 indicates an existing paint in the VW & Porsche systems while 99 is a true custom match to a customer supplied sample (that may be an existing paint in another manufacturers system). Your car may be the latter in which case you won't find a match in existing Porsche codes. The original owner that ordered the car would be the best source for help. Such a custom color puts a good premium on the car if it is desirable such as yours appears to be. It can be a curse if you don't know the correct paint code for repainting.

The part number is a regular part code in the paint section, however you had a 303 in the # and I cannot find that section, only a 903 section. Either that is a typo, or it is completely non-standard. My parts price manual is an 1986 version, so that may be part of the problem. It does list a lot of supercessions, so it should not be that bad, however it is 12 years later than your car. The other problem with the paint part numbers is that the description says 'laquer' and is no help at all. The 624 does seem to be in the ballpark for grey though, so that may be a clue. Has PCNA been any help?

Dave

imaircooled · 05-22-2007, 06:42 AM

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Chris, I have done a complete (AFAIK) list of paints for the 914, and that has taken some 20 years. I have been trying to work on the 911 as well because some of them cross over. Also, with the custom colors things can get interesting. 914's have two custom codes, 98 & 99, where 98 indicates an existing paint in the VW & Porsche systems while 99 is a true custom match to a customer supplied sample (that may be an existing paint in another manufacturers system). Your car may be the latter in which case you won't find a match in existing Porsche codes. The original owner that ordered the car would be the best source for help. Such a custom color puts a good premium on the car if it is desirable such as yours appears to be. It can be a curse if you don't know the correct paint code for repainting.

Dave,

Seems like you are an expert at this. I've read in other posts that there would be a "99 or 98" near a vin number or inside the door. Should I be looking for something like that? I think the example was for a pretty old 356. I would love to add to your color catalogue if my paint is indeed the original color for my car. I'm having trouble finding the paint code. I had it when my car was painted in 1995. I'm still looking through my car's paperwork. I didn't think about contacting the original owner. I probably could do that throught the internet.

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The part number is a regular part code in the paint section, however you had a 303 in the # and I cannot find that section, only a 903 section. Either that is a typo, or it is completely non-standard. My parts price manual is an 1986 version, so that may be part of the problem. It does list a lot of supercessions, so it should not be that bad, however it is 12 years later than your car. The other problem with the paint part numbers is that the description says 'laquer' and is no help at all. The 624 does seem to be in the ballpark for grey though, so that may be a clue. Has PCNA been any help?

I'll take a look at the part number again. It's hand written so I may not have read it correctly. I haven't talked to PCNA. Do you think the Certificate of Authenticity would be worth getting or should I contact someone at PCNA? I'll try to get the car out tonight and take some better pictures in the sun. It's supposed to be nice here all week....although my grass could use some rain.

Thanks again for your expertise and time.

Chris

djpateman · 05-22-2007, 07:14 AM

I may be a bit of an expert on the 914, but for any other model I don't know much. A COA for the car would be of some value. For the 914 only the fact that the paint was custom is recorded, not the actual paint color. PCNA may be able to help on the paint part number though. The factory has used many different paint code systems, sometimes several at the same time. The code stamped into the data plate may be different than on the COA, bill of sale or whatever, simply because they used parallel systems. Thus you need to know the crossover lists. The code may also be supplier dependant. The trouble with me guessing the code from the pictures is that the image on my screen may not look like the actual car, and the paint chips I compare with will also be internet images, and also faulty. I'll keep an eye on this thread.

imaircooled · 05-24-2007, 05:17 AM

Here are more pictures of my car. It's really hard to see the color in a picture.

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Mitch Leland · Mitch Leland's Garage

Howdy,

If in fact you have a factory one off paint your option sticker should indicate the paint code: L999. The option sticker should be on the inner right fender well behind the trunk upholstery or under the trunk hood. I also have a factory "Paint to Sample" color. However I've looked long and hard and there is no paint code number. PNA does not have it so when I repainted the front bumper I had the paint matched. Today a good paint shop can duplicate your color.

Here's a web site that will interpret your options codes if you have them. However I just open the site and the "code option" is not working so you might want to check back. http://www.kindel.com/porsche/options.asp

See ya,

imaircooled · 05-24-2007, 06:57 AM

Thanks Mitch,

I'll check for that L999 code. I might try to give Porsche a call and see if I have any luck. I also tried the kindle site and the code option wasn't working....I'll keep going back to it. Thanks for the help.

Chris

Mitch Leland · Mitch Leland's Garage

Chris,

I got PNA to look into the L999 paint code for me. Kristen at PNA said that the only way they could come up with the original "Paint by Sample" color was to go back to the original dealer who delivered the car, in my case the dealer was no longer in business. I've finally decided that it's a dead horse. My metallic Strawberry (at least that's what I call it) has some fading being 23 years old so if you had the original color it would need some tweaking anyway.

However I like the fact that I have an original factory paint, but it's a special color.

Good luck,

imaircooled · 05-24-2007, 12:22 PM

Mitch,

Metallic Strawberry!...I'd like to see a picture of that. There is a car that could be that color...or close on the the "not so common 911 color" thread. The thread is called something like that.....unless that car is yours. I don't think it was a widebody and the fuchs were the same color...you should check it out. I just called Pcna and they couldn't give me any information. I have a few different numbers so I'm going to try them too and see if I can't get something.

Chris

imaircooled · 05-24-2007, 07:34 PM

Dave,

You may have been correct about 624 being a clue. I found the words "Steel Gray" written in the owner's manual by one of the previous owners. Also, does 624 9-3 mean anything to you. It was written beside the steel gray. Could that be the color code?

Thanks again for your help.

Chris