Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
Should I go widebody (Keith, emptyo help..)

Okay, So I have been following a couple of threads about converting to a widebody. I have a fully prepped Carrera 3.2 (3.4) that I am thinking about going widebody on. I am motivated by the work being done by other Pelicans. Everything else on this car is modified. The only stock thing is the body shell.

Am I nuts, or should I do it?

Pros.....

- Car need paint anyways
- I can weld
- I can fit fiberglass parts
- I have not driven it in 20 months anyways.......
- I build 40+ sets of wheels a year so sourcing them is not a problem.

Cons....

- I already have TWO sets of F/G bumpres fitted to the car
- not sure how long this will take
- Gotta buy new tires (already have new ones for the 2 sets of 17's I currently have)
- could be a lot of extra work.

Here is the state the car is in now....





Car is a DE/Track car with big power (for a NA car) and big brakes and 935 suspension.

Should I weld the rears and buy F/G front fenders? Or just put it together and enjoy it?

Thanks

__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-19-2007, 09:18 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Britain Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cornelius, OR
Posts: 2,140
Do it. If it is a track car, I would go for fiberglass in case you kiss a wall or another car.

-Britain
__________________
'69 912 w/ 2.3L Type-4 Turbo Engine
'74 914 1825lbs, JDM Subaru STi Spec-C Engine, Lotus Suspension, 930 Trans.
'80 924 AAN 5-Cyl, Corvette C5 Transaxle - Team UBoot Rennwerks
-- www.britainracing.com --
Old 06-19-2007, 09:26 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
Who has good fitting F/G front turbo fenders?

It is mostly a DE car, but I keep it street legal. I am not sure I can afford to ball it up in wheel to wheel. But, I am sure I will end up there with it soon....

Cheers
__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-19-2007, 09:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Charlotte,NC,USA
Posts: 681
Garage
if you go wide body i would like dibs on that f/g front please.
Old 06-19-2007, 10:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
I have two of them......

cheers
__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-19-2007, 10:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Rennch on YouTube
 
rennch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 6,196
Garage
Send a message via AIM to rennch Send a message via Yahoo to rennch
Pornsche all the way.

Widebody. Just cut those rear fenders, and you're committed.







They are what embody the Porsche experience....
__________________
Michael O'Neal -
69 RSR Clone(ish) - The build: http://bit.ly/69porschersr
69 911S Blasphemy Build on YouTube
Rennch Youtube Channel: http://rennch.com/Youtube Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_rennch_/
Old 06-19-2007, 10:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
"PORNSCHE"....Ha, I am wearing my t-shrit right now!!!!

Michael, how is your work progressing?

Cheers
__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-19-2007, 10:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Rennch on YouTube
 
rennch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 6,196
Garage
Send a message via AIM to rennch Send a message via Yahoo to rennch
Check my project thread. I just updated it!
__________________
Michael O'Neal -
69 RSR Clone(ish) - The build: http://bit.ly/69porschersr
69 911S Blasphemy Build on YouTube
Rennch Youtube Channel: http://rennch.com/Youtube Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_rennch_/
Old 06-19-2007, 10:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
On my way there now!
__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-19-2007, 10:21 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,384
I feel like flares might become the slant nose conversions of the 80's one day. Or all these RSR conversions. They were cool and expensive at some point and now you can't give them away.
Old 06-20-2007, 05:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
klaucke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: US
Posts: 1,621
Narrow body is more svelte, and has the aero benefit. You can still fit plenty of wheel/tire under narrow body flares for great performance. If I were you, I'd just get my car back together and drive it.
Old 06-20-2007, 05:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,384
Good point Klaucke. Not only that but narrow bodys size tires have less turning resistance from the center of the pivot. I would just keep my Porsche narrow and then modify my driving. This whole flares and conversion phase is going to end and then guys like me are going to have to convert these cars back to stock one day. I will say that Emptyo you are doing a great job, a bit more grinding on the flare welds and you should have a pretty smooth body. I like grinding and welding to the point where you use a tablespoon of filler on a weld like that.

Last edited by EarlyPorsche; 06-20-2007 at 10:38 AM..
Old 06-20-2007, 05:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
newb.
 
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,077
Jeff, I'd be interested in take offs as well (unless I go widebody myself)

That is an excruciating decision, I know. If I did it (in your situation), I'd do steel flares, welded. FG front fenders are a PITA for fitment and ultimate finish on a street car.

As far as the comment about the widebody becoming passe in the future, I am of the opinion that era-correct modifications/changes don't become passe. 930-look on an eighties 911 is no fashion crime, I assure you. Turbo tails on narrow cars, possibly a different story.

Of course, 930 flares and a duck might be really cool in a muscle sort of way...
__________________
keith
'75 RS/RSR-look | '73 CB750 | '70 TD250B

r gruppe #436
Old 06-20-2007, 05:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Somatic Negative Optimist
 
Gunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Winlaw, BC, Canada
Posts: 7,206
Garage
Man, how can you not drive for 20 months?
I believe in upgrades and modifications but there is a point in time when you have to enjoy the results.
What's the sense of endless down-time?
Do the work in Winter and drive during Summer.
I participate in most of the runs (The CanAm June 1st in OR was a gem)
There are a few runs coming up right in your backyard, Jeff, like this Saturday, the 23rd. And then runs in July and August.
Been going on these runs for years but haven't seen you participate????
Forget the wide-body craze; drive and enjoy!
__________________
1980 Carrerarized SC with SS 3.2, LSD & Extras. SOLD!
1995 seafoam-green 993 C2, LSD, Sport seats.
Abstract Darwin Ipso Facto: "Life is evolutionary random and has no meaning as evidenced by 7 Billion paranoid talking monkeys with super-inflated egos and matching vanity worshipping illusionary Gods and Saviors ".
Old 06-20-2007, 06:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Charlotte,NC,USA
Posts: 681
Garage
PM me price on your sanded down and ready piece when you decide.
Old 06-20-2007, 06:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Less brakes, more gas!
 
euro911sc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Stuart, FL
Posts: 3,502
Garage
Jeff,

You have to put it back together and drive the snot off it... Then you will know if you will want to wide body it... I suspect you car will convince you that you need not make that journey just yet...

Gunter:

I've been down that long too and it sux big dead donkey ***** I've take to driving my 'other' car and it just isn't as satisfying

Best regards,

Michael
__________________
Michael
'82 Euro SC 'Track Rat' 22/29 Hollows, 22/22 Tarrets, Full ERPB F/R, Rennline Tri Brace, Glass bumpers, Pro 2000's, 5 pts, blah blah blah
'13 Cayenne GTS
Old 06-20-2007, 06:55 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Jeff Alton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Langley,B.C.
Posts: 12,016
Thanks for the feedback!

It is taking so long because I only get a few hours a week to work on it. I am a busy guy, and a single father. I also have suffered the odd lack of motivation from time to time as I look at the project and what is left.

That said the car is getting closer now. Interior will be in (except dash cap) by the end of the week, so that leaves fitting the F/G hood and finishing the wiring harness for the new motor. (plus paint)

I am just a the point where I don't want to have spent all of this time and money and then realize I should have done one more thing.....

Gunter, I still get to drive Porsches, have friends by regularily who toss me their keys. Still not the same as driving your own, but still fun.


Cheers
__________________
Turn3 Autosport- Full Service and Race Prep
www.turn3autosport.com
997 S 4.0, Cayman S 3.8, Cayenne Turbo, Macan Turbo, 69 911, Mini R53 JCW , RADICAL SR3
Old 06-20-2007, 07:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
boba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,325
Jeff,
Finish all the mech items and then drive it for awhile. You can hold off on the paint until you see if you need more mechanical grip with the motor and brake package. If you like it as is, paint it over the winter, if not flairs and paint over the winter. As you pointed out wheels are not a issue and it sounds like the parts you have will find new homes with no problem.
Regards,
Bob
Old 06-20-2007, 07:40 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Charlotte,NC,USA
Posts: 681
Garage
Honestly i agree with the masses wiring harness is about 2 hr.
interior one day and the hood just throw it on best you can then take the poor girl out man she has been waiting to run for you for way damn to long.
do the wiring harness first, start her up and let her yell at you for a bit maybe then you will have some more motivation
Old 06-20-2007, 08:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Rennch on YouTube
 
rennch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 6,196
Garage
Send a message via AIM to rennch Send a message via Yahoo to rennch
True to all. You should be able to fit 17 X 8's and 10's under there. 245 and 275. That's as wide as I'll probably go with mine anyway. I just liked how the RSR looked.

__________________
Michael O'Neal -
69 RSR Clone(ish) - The build: http://bit.ly/69porschersr
69 911S Blasphemy Build on YouTube
Rennch Youtube Channel: http://rennch.com/Youtube Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_rennch_/
Old 06-20-2007, 08:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:41 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.